Eek, I didn&#39;t notice this was the Wikimania list..<div><br></div><div>Agreed! This is a totally inappropriate venue.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 August 2012 20:48, Joseph Fox <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:josephfoxwiki@gmail.com" target="_blank">josephfoxwiki@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">







<p>I don&#39;t think this is a suitable topic for such a public mailing list at this time, regardless. Hong Kong comes before a bid that hasn&#39;t actually been finalised.</p>
<p>Joe</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 August 2012 20:46, Lodewijk <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lodewijk@effeietsanders.org" target="_blank">lodewijk@effeietsanders.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Maybe the question should first be: what kind of Wikimania do we want. Personally, I would be totally happy with down scaling the conference a bit. Less visitors (500-600), less events and less professional. Let it be more volunteer focused, and yes, perhaps also a bit more chaotic. That also means we can change the nature of bids: more back to basic and more focus on location, venue and accomodation. If we can bring the budget down, we also need to focus less on sponsorships etc, which should make the bidding easier and more open to more groups of dedicated volunteers. <div>



<br></div><div>I know other people have a different opinion about it, and would rather make the conference more professional, less risky, more fancy etc. I prefer it to be a lower key community event. </div><span><font color="#888888"><div>

<br></div>

<div>Lodewijk</div></font></span><div><div><div><br></div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">2012/8/25 Thomas Dalton <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com" target="_blank">thomas.dalton@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>On 25 August 2012 20:28, Itzik Edri &lt;<a href="mailto:itzik@infra.co.il" target="_blank">itzik@infra.co.il</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Sorry, it&#39;s undiplomatic to interfere with others budget plans - but I just<br>
&gt; can&#39;t ignore how the future of Wikimania will look like if others will<br>
&gt; follow UK plans to invest £40,000 only for the bid process (about 62,000$).<br>
<br>
</div>To be clear, that plan is still in draft, and that particular item has<br>
received plenty of opposition.<br>
<br>
I am in favour of spending money on bids - it is necessary if we want<br>
to get professional quality bids. I am not in favour of spending that<br>
kind of money on bids, though.<br>
<div><div><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Wikimania-l mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l" target="_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>
</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
Wikimania-l mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l" target="_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br>
</div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
Wikimania-l mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org">Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l" target="_blank">https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>