Dear John,
That's a real shame! I hope you would not mind my making the same
suggestion, of creating structured lists of UK public artworks, to the
organisers of Wiki Loves Monuments instead? According to the timeline
here<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Timeline>the
first arrangements for WLM 2014 are just about to begin.
We are lucky in the UK in that we have no problems concerning FOP of 3D
works (2D works are another matter), and I'm sorry to hear about the legal
difficulties Wikimedia Sverige has encountered. I hope things will improve
in 2015.
Best regards,
Marc
Hi,
I have just discovered the existence of Wiki Loves Public Art and even
though it's rather behind schedule I would really like to see the UK being
involved. I have edited many list articles on public art in London (most
notably List of public art in the City of
Westminster<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_art_in_the_City_of_Westminster>,
which I am hoping to bring to featured status -- in fact I'm going to ask
for a microgrant to do the necessary travel, which I could time so as to
upload the photos in May) and one of Cardiff (the capital of Wales) on the
English Wikipedia.
The relevant body to contact in order to obtain a database for making
structured lists is the Public Monuments and Sculpture Association (PMSA),
who already have a database online in the form of the National Recording
Project (NRP). Details are
here<http://www.pmsa.org.uk/national-recording-project/>.
Unfortunately this does not cover the entire UK, only about 70% of it. I
know of three further online databases which cover areas not in the NRP:
Sussex <http://www.publicsculpturesofsussex.co.uk/>, Norfolk and
Suffolk<http://www.racns.co.uk/>
and Sheffield <http://public-art.shu.ac.uk/sheffield/index.html> (though
this last one is not, to my mind, very good). UK involvement in the WLPA
would presumably be dependent on the PMSA being willing to give us a copy
of their database to create the necessary lists in time for May.
I am on good terms with Robin Owain, the Wales Manager of Wikimedia UK so I
could contact him next in order to set the ball rolling. Is it best for the
local chapter to contact the relevant institutions?
Best regards,
Marc Haynes (User:Ham)
Dear everybody,
During the last weeks there have been ongoing discussions within our chapter about Wiki Loves Public Art and our chapter's active involvement. We have been extremely happy and proud over what was achieved last year but still we have had to reconsider. Yesterday the team working on the international contest sadly took the decision that we will postpone the contest and review the possibility again next year. We have reached this conclusion as as there are a number of issues that have to be solved for the contest to make sense, and each of them are a potential show stopper:
The once again ongoing discussions on Wikimedia Commons about PD images and URAA[1] and also images under Freedom of Panorama in the source country but not in the US[2] – we feel that it would be irresponsible to use movement resources in this way if the images might end up being deleted. If the Community isn’t convinced all photos might end up being deleted even if it is not necessary. We believe that these discussions need to be closer to a solution before we run this contest again;We lack strong international partners/sponsors this year which means that the value of these efforts decreases and the cost would increase. Europeana the other day informed us about their new focus areas for the year – where WLPA is not prioritized;The technical issues with Maarten Damers’ tools. As you might know Maarten recently informed the WLM team that he will not work on moving the tools to Labs, and therefor they might all stop working shortly when the Toolserver is killed. The Ukrainian Wiki Loves Earth team has said that they can take over the work with them, but this is still not solved as far as we know – and they might not have time to help with WLPA either. In our team we sadly don’t have the capacity to do this work.
Additionally, there are a few new legal developments in Sweden that we are currently dealing with. The chapter is currently involved in legal actions regarding publications of photos of works of art from Sweden, as there are some legal ambiguities in Swedish legislation. This severely limits what we could have done in Sweden during the contest, as we do not want to risk contest participants being dragged into the process. Thus meaning that there will be no national contest in Sweden.
Obviously you can still do a national contest if you so please, but as it seem now, Wikimedia Sverige will not take on the international coordination this year. I am really sorry for this as we all have spent time working on this and we have had great fun working with you all. We sincerely hope that we will be able to pick up the contest again in the future!
Any data already collected could still be used to generate lists on Wikipedia and we could help with that if needed. If you do plan to carry on, obviously we are still available for questions and consultation if needed.
On Commons and other places there have been many discussions on what we could do with photo contests in the future. This might be worth thinking a bit more about.[3]
Please let us know your thoughts.
Best,
John Andersson, on behalf of the international team
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Use_of_Foreign_Works_Restored_und… [2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/Non-US_Free… [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Future