Hi Lodewijk,**** ** ** NB would be templates for each country ie Template:EH listed building header, Template:EH listed building row, Template:HS listed building header, Template:HS listed building row, Template:Cadw listed building header and Template:Cadw listed building row – I’ve not been able to find the Northern Ireland ones yet.**** ** ** Rod**** ** ** *From:* wlm2013-l-bounces(a)wikimedia.org.uk [mailto: wlm2013-l-bounces(a)wikimedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Lodewijk *Sent:* 21 July 2013 19:37 *To:* Michael Maggs *Cc:* wlm2013-l(a)wikimedia.org.uk; Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition *Subject:* Re: [Wlm2013-l] How will competitors access the upload wizard from the English Wikipedia?**** ** ** Hi michael,**** ** ** actually this change would be fairly trivial. It would just be a matter of changing the mother template, and no need to 'fix' the individual pages - assuming that they all use that template (which is necessary anyway). **** ** ** The main bottle neck for showing upload links even when there is already an image, is approval from the community, not the technical side. If need be, you could make this change on August 30, and revert that early October. **** ** ** Hope that answers,**** ** ** Lodewijk**** ** ** 2013/7/21 Michael Maggs &lt;Michael(a)maggs.name&gt;**** Oh dear! See the thread below from the WLM International list.**** ** ** It seems to me that we really must have a direct image upload link built in to the WLM template on en.W which works even where we have an image of a building already. Part of the purpose of the competition is to encourage new editors/uploads and we can't have a system that requires specialist Wiki knowledge in every case where there is already an image. We want lots of images of each building!**** ** ** A question to those who know about bots: how difficult would it be to change the template on en.W, and then run an update script over all the the pages that have been done so far?**** ** ** I'm not sure where it would be best to add the upload link, but it shouldn't be too intrusive as we may get resistance from the community. Is the technology behind the template capable of having, for example, a small '+" button which overlays any existing image and appears in the right hand corner? Or can anyone come up with something better?**** ** ** Regards to all. It's looking good at the moment for the UK's first foray into this competition!**** ** ** Michael**** ** ** ** ** Begin forwarded message:**** **** *From: *Jean-Frédéric &lt;jeanfrederic.wiki(a)gmail.com&gt;**** *Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How will competitors access the upload wizard from the English Wikipedia?***** *Date: *19 July 2013 23:59:05 GMT+01:00**** *To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition < wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;**** *Reply-To: *Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition < wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt;**** ** ** Hi Michael and all,**** ** ** You raise a good point **** ** ** *If there is no existing image of a buidling, clicking on the last column goes to the upload wizard, but if there is already an image it seems the competitor will need to do some manual work to find the listing code and upload separately. That is not good. What would you recommend? Have I missed something, or do we need to change the list template so that it always has some sort of visible upload link?* **** ** ** Technically, this can be done easily. I guess it depends more on your community - for example, on fr.wp, nobody really cared and Maarten (and then I) just went ahead and tweaked the template ; I understand that on en.wp the NRHP project had to jump through some hoops (because of some placeholder policy there).**** So yeah, an upload link for each monument can definitely be added - you just need to know if that is really what you want to have :)**** **** -- Jean-Frédéric**** _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org**** ** ** _______________________________________________ Wlm2013-l mailing list Wlm2013-l(a)wikimedia.org.uk http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l**** ** ** _______________________________________________ Wlm2013-l mailing list Wlm2013-l(a)wikimedia.org.uk http://lists.wikimedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/wlm2013-l