Dear all,
thank you for your interest in Wiki Loves Monuments. There are in total 33 subscriptions to this mailing list, and that is much more than I hoped for when we started this! I hope we can together set up a wonderful cooperation on a European level - the first in its kind. I apologize for the (once again) long email - there is just so much to write!
First of all, for those that might have missed it, let me refer to the earlier post where I explained the concept I had in mind at the time: [1] and the post mortem of Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 with a lot of helpful information: [2]. I hope this e-mail will clarify a bit where we are, and where we are going.
Considering the high interest up to now, it seems very likely that we will try to pull this off definitely! September seems rather far away still, but please note there are some steps that take a lot of time (especially getting the raw data and building lists and a community), so we really have to get started soon to avoid stressing too much later on.
I will send in a week or two a more worked out concept of what Wiki Loves Monuments could look like. I hope for your input up to that moment, and after that as well.
There are a few important points I would like to share with you: 1) Wiki Loves Monuments EU 2011 will be organized in a federative way - that means that you are responsible for organizing a contest in your own country. Ideally following similar principles, but there will be a lot of own responsibility. We do want to make it easier for you though, so if you need advise, we will be available; technical infrastructure can of course be shared.
2) If you are interested to participate, even if you do not know for sure yet, or if there are dependencies, please share that information! We created a table on Wikimedia Commons, [3], please fill that table with the information available for your country! Especially the chapter contact and the "want to do WLM" columns. If you have doubts and need advise, just start a new thread on this mailing list and we can all help each other.
3) Getting the monument info. As explained at [2], addresses etc for the monuments to create lists from is crucial for organizing a successful Wiki Loves Monuments. Our experience is that the organizations governing this data are not very protective, and might be very enthusiast if we want to use it in a disclosing way. If you want to run a Wiki Loves Monuments in your country, you need this data. First step is to find out which organization in your country has the rights to release this data. Second is to see if you have any (direct or indirect) connections to that organization. If you have, please approach the organization yourself, and share your experiences with other chapters! If you do not have any contacts, and your only option is a "cold call" - then please contact Wikimedia Nederland (through Maarten Dammers) - we have several enthusiast partners which have good contacts with sister organizations in other European countries. They might be able to provide contact details of the right person. We probably need a few days up to a week to get you that information.
4) In general: please communicate a lot and swiftly through this list. Most likely multiple countries will encounter similar problems which we never thought of in the Netherlands - please share them, and don't think you will be the only one.
5) A good thing to keep in mind, probably stating the obvious, this is a typical project where a chapter can only /facilitate/ the community. There is a high dependency on volunteer activity on the project, and if there is no interest from volunteers for this, don't start with it.
6) If you need any kind of advice, just ask for it. Maarten and I (and probably many others) are willing to help out in any way possible - if necessary to get your community motivated, we could come and give a workshop/brainstorm session for a day or so (February might be a good month for that), but please approach us quickly about that! If you have any out of the box ideas on this, share them!
I look forward to any replies and input, lets make this list alive! I would appreciate it if every chapter that actually read the whole email would just make its presense known, so that we know how many chapters are here and listening, and who needs to be approached privately once again.
Best,
lodewijk
[1]: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2010-December/000000... [2]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem [3]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/progress
Hello,
I'm Ludovic Péron [[user:Ludo29]] on all projets. I live in Lausanne (Switerzland), I'm a former member of the WMCH's board. I'm active in Switerzland and in France. WMCH is interesting by this project. I think that for WMFR it is the same thing
Ludovic
2011/1/26 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Dear all,
thank you for your interest in Wiki Loves Monuments. There are in total 33 subscriptions to this mailing list, and that is much more than I hoped for when we started this! I hope we can together set up a wonderful cooperation on a European level - the first in its kind. I apologize for the (once again) long email - there is just so much to write!
First of all, for those that might have missed it, let me refer to the earlier post where I explained the concept I had in mind at the time: [1] and the post mortem of Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 with a lot of helpful information: [2]. I hope this e-mail will clarify a bit where we are, and where we are going.
Considering the high interest up to now, it seems very likely that we will try to pull this off definitely! September seems rather far away still, but please note there are some steps that take a lot of time (especially getting the raw data and building lists and a community), so we really have to get started soon to avoid stressing too much later on.
I will send in a week or two a more worked out concept of what Wiki Loves Monuments could look like. I hope for your input up to that moment, and after that as well.
There are a few important points I would like to share with you:
- Wiki Loves Monuments EU 2011 will be organized in a federative way -
that means that you are responsible for organizing a contest in your own country. Ideally following similar principles, but there will be a lot of own responsibility. We do want to make it easier for you though, so if you need advise, we will be available; technical infrastructure can of course be shared.
- If you are interested to participate, even if you do not know for sure
yet, or if there are dependencies, please share that information! We created a table on Wikimedia Commons, [3], please fill that table with the information available for your country! Especially the chapter contact and the "want to do WLM" columns. If you have doubts and need advise, just start a new thread on this mailing list and we can all help each other.
- Getting the monument info. As explained at [2], addresses etc for the
monuments to create lists from is crucial for organizing a successful Wiki Loves Monuments. Our experience is that the organizations governing this data are not very protective, and might be very enthusiast if we want to use it in a disclosing way. If you want to run a Wiki Loves Monuments in your country, you need this data. First step is to find out which organization in your country has the rights to release this data. Second is to see if you have any (direct or indirect) connections to that organization. If you have, please approach the organization yourself, and share your experiences with other chapters! If you do not have any contacts, and your only option is a "cold call" - then please contact Wikimedia Nederland (through Maarten Dammers) - we have several enthusiast partners which have good contacts with sister organizations in other European countries. They might be able to provide contact details of the right person. We probably need a few days up to a week to get you that information.
- In general: please communicate a lot and swiftly through this list. Most
likely multiple countries will encounter similar problems which we never thought of in the Netherlands - please share them, and don't think you will be the only one.
- A good thing to keep in mind, probably stating the obvious, this is a
typical project where a chapter can only /facilitate/ the community. There is a high dependency on volunteer activity on the project, and if there is no interest from volunteers for this, don't start with it.
- If you need any kind of advice, just ask for it. Maarten and I (and
probably many others) are willing to help out in any way possible - if necessary to get your community motivated, we could come and give a workshop/brainstorm session for a day or so (February might be a good month for that), but please approach us quickly about that! If you have any out of the box ideas on this, share them!
I look forward to any replies and input, lets make this list alive! I would appreciate it if every chapter that actually read the whole email would just make its presense known, so that we know how many chapters are here and listening, and who needs to be approached privately once again.
Best,
lodewijk
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hi all,
On 26 Jan 2011, at 14:57, Lodewijk wrote:
<lots of info you should read>
I look forward to any replies and input, lets make this list alive! I would appreciate it if every chapter that actually read the whole email would just make its presense known, so that we know how many chapters are here and listening, and who needs to be approached privately once again.
Mike Peel, Wikimedia UK. I led 'Britain Loves Wikipedia' back in February 2010, which was a spin-off of 'Wikipedia Loves Art' - see http://www.britainloveswikipedia.org/ . There's a lot of interest in the UK in participating in this event, but some worries about organisational capacity...
Thanks, Mike
2011/1/26 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
There are a few important points I would like to share with you:
- Wiki Loves Monuments EU 2011 will be organized in a federative way - that
means that you are responsible for organizing a contest in your own country. Ideally following similar principles, but there will be a lot of own responsibility. We do want to make it easier for you though, so if you need advise, we will be available; technical infrastructure can of course be shared. 2) If you are interested to participate, even if you do not know for sure yet, or if there are dependencies, please share that information! We created a table on Wikimedia Commons, [3], please fill that table with the information available for your country! Especially the chapter contact and the "want to do WLM" columns. If you have doubts and need advise, just start a new thread on this mailing list and we can all help each other.
I just wonder how it is going to be organised. I mean - if the local chapters may organise local contests in their countries - and then the winners of local contensts will be in some sort of way recognized and prized on top-EU-level, or it is going to be centralised from the very begininig - i.e people will upload pictures through one central website and the results are to be judged on central level as well ?
Hi Tomasz,
we definitely want to encourage a federative model. So chapters run primarily a local contest, specified to the local needs (although we could create a centralized website pointing to the participating websites). Uploading will be through seperate forms for each country, but of course all on commons/flickr (ideally we would like to offer both in each country, but that is a practical detail we can work out later), so as far as that goes it is also federated. I do not believe it would be helpful if we force the chapters into a model that doesnt fit them.
Best,
Lodewijk
2011/1/28 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com
2011/1/26 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org:
There are a few important points I would like to share with you:
- Wiki Loves Monuments EU 2011 will be organized in a federative way -
that
means that you are responsible for organizing a contest in your own
country.
Ideally following similar principles, but there will be a lot of own responsibility. We do want to make it easier for you though, so if you
need
advise, we will be available; technical infrastructure can of course be shared. 2) If you are interested to participate, even if you do not know for sure yet, or if there are dependencies, please share that information! We
created
a table on Wikimedia Commons, [3], please fill that table with the information available for your country! Especially the chapter contact
and
the "want to do WLM" columns. If you have doubts and need advise, just
start
a new thread on this mailing list and we can all help each other.
I just wonder how it is going to be organised. I mean - if the local chapters may organise local contests in their countries - and then the winners of local contensts will be in some sort of way recognized and prized on top-EU-level, or it is going to be centralised from the very begininig - i.e people will upload pictures through one central website and the results are to be judged on central level as well ?
-- Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
Hello all,
I’m Jean-Frédéric, [[User:Jean-Frédéric]], from France. I’m the, er, janitor of the *Monuments historiques* project on Wikimedia Commons (sister project of the MH projects on Wikipedia and Wikisource), and also a member of Wikimédia France.
I confirm what Ludo said : the French chapter is definitely interested in this project.
Cheers, -- Jean-Frédéric
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org