We are making up the numbers, but they will be unique ideas. The national committee does
not have numbers at all.
As to lists - unfortunately Hebrew Wikipedia does not allow lists. We would need to
arrange some exception for this.
From: Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
Cc: Deror Avi <deror_avi(a)yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Israel Update
Thanks for the updates!
Op 2-7-2012 10:58, Lodewijk schreef:
Thanks Deror for the update! Do I understand correctly that the list is not complete yet?
As a point for the automated processing, it seems that currently you're working with
Wikitables to show the lists in. We actually recommand to use a template structure, where
you insert the same template for every row. This does have its limitations, but makes it
easier to insert a dedicated upload link for that specific monument, or to have a link to
its place on the map (once geo coordinates are available). It also makes it easier to
harvest the monument list and update it in the database, I've been told.
Easier? Possible. It doesn't work with wikitables. I see numbers in the list.
Who assigned those numbers? Are these numbers unique?
You should place the lists in the main namespace and make them
integral part of the encyclopedia, see for example
. This way you can start documenting your local heritage and Wiki Loves Monuments acts as
2012/7/2 Deror Avi <deror_avi(a)yahoo.com>
>As was previously updated, Israel will participate this year in the WLM competition.
We wish to update you with our progress.
>Our first objective was to try and obtain a list of national monuments. This proved to
be much more difficult than originally anticipated. According to Israeli antiquities law,
any building or object created or built before 1700 is a protected archeological object.
Buildings which were built afterwards were not protected. After the demolishing of the
Herzaliya Gymnasium in 1962 , and following public protests, the National Council for
Preservation of Heritage Sites was created. This body did not have any legal capacity to
protect landmarks, and worked at advancing public awareness of national heritage sites.
Only in 2011 was legislation passed protecting such landmarks. According to the
legislation, the National Council will create lists of protected sites which will approved
by the local municipalities in order to come into force. This resulted in local politics
being involved, and most of the lists were never approved due to local economic
We approached the Council, and requested their co-operation. We have held several meetings
with the Council, and eventually convinced them to join us in the project. (One of the
difficulties was that the Council itself has an annual photography competition, and the
WLM would compete with it.) Upon receiving the blessing of the general manager of the
National Council, we discovered that the Council itself does not have the lists of
monuments. With the assistance of the Council, and after a week of searching, they were
able to locate some of the lists, which are uploaded to the project page on Wikipedia
This will be the first time that the list of national monuments will be available online
to the Israeli public.
We have also contacted several sponsors, and currently await their decision to sponsor the
We have contacted the largest local amateur photography school, and asked it to sponsor
some of the events we are planning as part of the competition. We will further update once
these events are finalized.
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