Good point. For a bot savy it should not be difficult, a priori, to log files in Deletion
requests, Candidates for speedy deletion an other problematic categories and also in
category Images from Wiki Loves Monuments xxx in xxx. It would help WLM local organizers
to track those potential problematic files and users.
Vicenç
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Tema: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] How can we put together a more rigorous screening
[...] With suitable categories for shortlisted and winning entries, it ought to be
perfectly possible to devise a bot that will provide a real-time warning when images are
deleted or made the subject of a Deletion Request.
If this seems worth doing, I would be very happy as a Commons admin and crat to help set
things up.
Michael
Jean-Frédéric<mailto:jeanfrederic.wiki@gmail.com>
31 January 2017 at 3:41 pm
Hello,
Anyway, as much as I am surprised that no top WLM organizer is a Commons admin (although
there's clearly at least one admin on this mailing list),
I beg to differ − Lokal Profil, Romaine, Yarl and myself are members of the international
team and sysops on Commons :) [0]
This thread reminded that I planned (and then forgot ^__^) to reach out to the Commons
community on behalf of the WLM team, in order to hear their thoughts regarding WLM, how it
impacts their workload, etc. Not sure yet how best to do that. Anyhow, feel free to
continue posting your thoughts on this list (or to me privately if you prefer) − I’ll
compile a summary it for the international team and this list :)
[0]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016/Who%27…
--
Jean-Fred
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Ynhockey<mailto:ynhockey@gmail.com>
31 January 2017 at 12:58 pm
Are Commons admins approved temporarily? I know some Wikipedias (including Hebrew)
don't have permanent adminship and re-approve admins every once in a while, but
it's probably a disastrous policy for Commons if it's the case.
Anyway, as much as I am surprised that no top WLM organizer is a Commons admin (although
there's clearly at least one admin on this mailing list), it's possible to get
around this, although not easy. Lily has a good channel to the WMF and most of us are
long-time users who know many others + many developers. The solution can be technical, and
it can come from the WLM: perhaps a new user group that can only see historical revisions
and restore without some of the other admin rights, perhaps an options to archive images
that "need" to be deleted on groups of Commons policy, but aren't opposed by
the foundation's legal team (might be a solution for URAA images as well), etc.
I know that many in the community don't want any WMF interference, and the WMF wants
to repair community ties—both are completely understandable. I don't want to suggest
that we should interfere with these processes, but do think we can implement some kind of
solution on the side. After all, WLM is a big project that costs a ton of resources. Just
in terms of money, the WMF (or sometimes local donations) funds it with tens of thousands
of dollars, directly or indirectly. It's therefore worth investing a little bit more
to technically support projects like WLM.
—Yan (Ynhockey).
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Federico Leva (Nemo)<mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>
31 January 2017 at 8:57 am
It's expected on Commons too, see
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_policy#Speedy_deletion><https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_policy#Speedy_deletion>.
When mistakes happen on Commons, we're sometimes too quick at generalising. Currently
Commons has issues with one or two rampant admins who make semi-random deletions en masse
(and even edit war on deletion requests). Hopefully the situation is temporary.
Nemo
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31 January 2017 at 8:39 am
I've told Jcb about this
discussion<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jcb#Unexplained_…on>,
reminded them to check for license blanking vandalism and asked if they can check the
deleted edits of the license blanker in case they were able to get any other files deleted
that way.
I'm not an admin on commons, but where I am an admin it would be expected that you
would check the history of a file before deleting it.
WSC
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