Any opinions? I'm positive for now :)
Lodewijk
---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Von: David McDonell david@imagenomic.com Datum: 16. September 2011 23:20 Betreff: Sponsorship Inquiry from Imagenomic An: wikilovesmonuments-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
Hello.
Our company produces high-quality software tools for photographers. We regularly sponsor photo competitions, festivals and other special events.
I would like to know if the Wiki Loves Monuments contest organizers would like to include our products as part of the award package.
Please see our website (www.imagenomic.com) for a general overview and let me know if interested.
With best regards, --David
David McDonell IMAGENOMIC LLC
Is retouching software benefiting free knowledge? I don't know. Is it a nice tool for commercial purposes. Undoubtly. So there is value in this for a prize winner, but it is not in itself valuable to our mission. In short, I am slightly positive.
2011/9/16 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Any opinions? I'm positive for now :)
Lodewijk
---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Von: David McDonell david@imagenomic.com Datum: 16. September 2011 23:20 Betreff: Sponsorship Inquiry from Imagenomic An: wikilovesmonuments-owner@lists.wikimedia.org
Hello.
Our company produces high-quality software tools for photographers. We regularly sponsor photo competitions, festivals and other special events.
I would like to know if the Wiki Loves Monuments contest organizers would like to include our products as part of the award package.
Please see our website (www.imagenomic.com) for a general overview and let me know if interested.
With best regards, --David
David McDonell IMAGENOMIC LLC
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Great news Lodewijk, but...
.... they produce plugins, which I'd say are useless without the base package: Photoshop (more specifically, Lightroom). I couldn't figure if the bundle Photoshop along, but I don't think so...
2011/9/16 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Any opinions? I'm positive for now :)
I forwarded to the French WLM list and our photograph workrgroup list, asking for input. People made several points :
*Although anyone is free to use the software he wishes, FLOSS or not FLOSS, and we have no intent to discrimate people who use unfree software, actually offering unfree software as prizes is at odds with what we are trying to promote with this free photograph contest. It may also gain us bad fame with die-hard free activists.
*it is very already very late in the contest (2011-09-19), so adding some prizes will not help us having more photos.
*in France at least, as a contest need to be declared, with bylaws and everything, it is not sure we could add prizes if we wanted.
Well, I don't agree with any of these sentences, though. At all.
Radicalism in the FLOSS world never got anyone anywhere. It was only when people started noticing that they can co-exist that they started considering FLOSS as an option.
And I mean everyone.... but the fanatics.
One can produce good and free photos with either FLOSS or non-FLOSS. Sometimes people in informatics make it look like that the (licensing model of the) tools are such an important mean to an end, isn't it? People are free to choose how they want to do it, either when producing or consuming. And a prize is always a prize, be it FLOSS or non FLOSS.
I wonder if the prize was a motorcycle, would we discuss if it was open source?
Adding more prizes is always a good idea, IMO.
Glossary: FLOSS stands for Free and Open (Source) Software
Hello,
Le 19 septembre 2011 10:26, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.wiki@gmail.com a écrit :
2011/9/16 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org *in France at least, as a contest need to be declared, with bylaws and everything, it is not sure we could add prizes if we wanted.
Well, we *could*, but I do not see the point in paying one hundred euros a bailiff to make an amendment to the contest rules, only to add a software that is worth $30 as a price.
Sylvain.
2011/9/19 Sylvain Boissel sylvain.boissel@wikimedia.fr:
Hello,
Le 19 septembre 2011 10:26, Jean-Frédéric jeanfrederic.wiki@gmail.com a écrit :
2011/9/16 Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org *in France at least, as a contest need to be declared, with bylaws and everything, it is not sure we could add prizes if we wanted.
Well, we *could*, but I do not see the point in paying one hundred euros a bailiff to make an amendment to the contest rules, only to add a software that is worth $30 as a price. Sylvain.
But why did you add the prizes for the European contest to your national contest? Technically it is a whole different contest, the only link being that the entry threshold for the European contest is having won the national contest. At least this is how we see things in Romania.
Strainu
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