Photo eligibility - WikiLovesMonuments

Jonathan Cardy

6 Sep 6 Sep

10:59 a.m.

You can only enter people into a contest if they agree, but the contest does not require people to use a particular upload form. I suggest you talk to the individual, give them the code they could copy into their descriptions and if you have volunteers available offer to add the template to the images they have uploaded that would qualify Regards WSC

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On 6 Sep 2016, at 08:47, Neville Borg <neville.borg(a)wikimalta.org> wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding eligibility of photos - we are receiving many photos (mostly from one user) for monuments that are on our list, but are not uploaded through the WLM wizard. I suspect that this user is uploading them to participate in WLM but is used to uploading pictures in a certain manner and is unwilling to deviate from this. Are these photos still eligible, or are they to be ignored for the purpose of the contest? Thanks for your help! Neville _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

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Lodewijk

5:50 p.m.

Hi all, As this relates probably, I think it might be clear to clarify this question from the perspective of the international jurying. The method with which images are uploaded are to the international competition not a blocker - the question is whether they have the correct template (not the category!) on their pages. The template will also add the category automatically. Also, it is important that the monument is properly identified. If people add this after upload, that is fine. But I would say they have to do it before the end of the competition. You can't add the template for them without their explicit permission, because that would mean entering someone else into a competition they didn't sign up for. That would not be a Good Thing :) Best, Lodewijk 2016-09-06 4:47 GMT-07:00 Nicu Buculei <nicubunu(a)gmail.com>om>:

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On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Neville Borg wrote:

Hi all, I have a question regarding eligibility of photos - we are receiving many photos (mostly from one user) for monuments that are on our list, but are not uploaded through the WLM wizard. I suspect that this user is

uploading

them to participate in WLM but is used to uploading pictures in a certain manner and is unwilling to deviate from this. Are these photos still eligible, or are they to be ignored for the

purpose

of the contest?

Did you write on the rules for your national contest the photos must be uploaded with the wizard? Normally it shouldn't be the case (some people even use bots to upload their images). This particular user adds the relevant data for the contest? Meaning the monument identifier, the relevant categories, templates and such... if so, then the uploads should be eligible. If not, you can contact the uploader, inform about the mistakes and maybe offer a bit of help, is up to you. -- nicu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

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Neville Borg

10:54 p.m.

Hi all, Thanks for your comments and feedback, we will look into the possibility of reconfiguring the landing page to make it more straightforward. Since only one person has uploaded outside of the upload wizard, we will reach out to this individual user to see if they need any guidance and if they wish to participate in the contest after all. Best, Neville On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, 18:03 Lily, <lilyofthewest.wikimedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Neville, One more thing to add to the earlier emails on this thread: If I go to Malta's landing page at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_Mal… the most prominent/eye-catching option in the page for me is the "Upload your photos" button. That's put before the 4 steps explaining how you want me to use that button. You may want to reorder the landing page so people first see the 4 steps. Also, in Step 4 you can emphasize again that people should go to the lists that you have linked in Step 1 and find the upload button corresponding to each monument to upload photos for that monument. This way, it becomes clearer to your audience that there is a preferred way for uploading photos. You may also want to consider to replace the "Upload your photos" button with some other actionable button independent of whether you change the order with which you represent content in your page. For example, instead of that button linking to Upload Wizard, you can link it to first step people should take to get started (creating account, looking up the list of monuments close to them, etc.). Best, Leila On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:

Hi all, As this relates probably, I think it might be clear to clarify this question from the perspective of the international jurying. The method with which images are uploaded are to the international competition not a blocker - the question is whether they have the correct template (not the category!) on their pages. The template will also add the category automatically. Also, it is important that the monument is properly identified. If people add this after upload, that is fine. But I would say they have to do it before the end of the competition. You can't add the template for them without their explicit permission, because that would mean entering someone else into a competition they didn't sign up for. That would not be a Good Thing :) Best, Lodewijk 2016-09-06 4:47 GMT-07:00 Nicu Buculei <nicubunu(a)gmail.com>om>:

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Neville Borg wrote:

Hi all, I have a question regarding eligibility of photos - we are receiving

many

photos (mostly from one user) for monuments that are on our list, but

are

not uploaded through the WLM wizard. I suspect that this user is

uploading

them to participate in WLM but is used to uploading pictures in a

certain

manner and is unwilling to deviate from this. Are these photos still eligible, or are they to be ignored for the

purpose

of the contest?

Did you write on the rules for your national contest the photos must be uploaded with the wizard? Normally it shouldn't be the case (some people even use bots to upload their images). This particular user adds the relevant data for the contest? Meaning the monument identifier, the relevant categories, templates and such... if so, then the uploads should be eligible. If not, you can contact the uploader, inform about the mistakes and maybe offer a bit of help, is up to you. -- nicu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org

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