Hi All,
I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international team. People from the previous years have set the standard to be very high.
Having said that we need to focus on the present. Many countries are organizing WLM. What value can we add to their competition if we have an international team? What will be the cost associated with the activities?
My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
1. Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that participating countries abide by the judging rules.
2. Procure and distribute awards.
3. (Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level. Collect statistics. Help countries that may have technical/financial difficulty.
I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014. You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from each country or you organize an election if too many people want to involve. But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
What do you guys think?
Taweetham
On 30 June 2014 12:57, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi Taweetham,
There were indeed a few people that volunteered. However, after that nobody stood up and took responsibility to make things happen. Also, please note that in the past year the international team had 6 people and the feeling was there was too much work already.
The tasks for an international team, to make an international competition possible, are quite wide. You will find an overview on https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Timelin... (the lower part). Please note that this timeline starts in January/February. It is June now.
I'm glad to hear that you feel that Romaine is doing a good job, but please note that what he's doing is normally not considered technical support. When we mention technical, it is usually referring to making sure the tools are up and running (the map tools, evaluation tools, websites, monuments database etc). Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
If you set up an international competition, in my humble opinion you will have to make sure the quality is good. People have a set of expectations with an international competition, and while WLM has always been a bit messy, that should definitely include proper international prizes, a good and balanced jury, a proper jury report, some international coordination, a proper website and documentation. If you are confident you can manage that, please be my guest. But my request is to do it well, if you do it. Wiki Loves Monuments has a good name to uphold and if we want to use it again in the future as a major competition, a very messy last minute competition in the year before would not help.
I'm sorry we didn't have this discussion half a year ago when the question was first raised - then there would have been plenty of time for a proper knowledge transfer and organization. Right now, I personally don't feel too confident about that.
But like I said: if countries want to set up national competitions, great! As long as the technical infrastructure is there, that should be OK. If the infrastructure is actually there, I don't know to be honest :)
I hope this elaborates a bit where my assumptions come from.
Best, Lodewijk
2014-06-30 2:15 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki@gmail.com:
What kind of prize do we want? My understanding is that prizes come from other sponsors too.
Monetary value of the prizes are not very high. I believe that we can raise the fund for it.
On 30 June 2014 07:09, Saqib Qayyum saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com wrote:
The sad thing is that one major thing that won't be available this year is international prizes. Even if we get international team, I doubt they will apply for a grant from WMF and ask for prizes for international winners.
In this case, I don't think we really need an international team.. Romaine is doing good. He's providing good technical support.
Saqib
From: KaewWiki@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 06:47:36 +0700 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] international website
Hi All,
My understanding is different. There are at least three people volunteer to be on the international team. They have indicated their intention on this mailing list:
From: Bachounda Mohammed bachounda@gmail.com To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 2014 international? (Bachounda mophammed) Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 21:55:48 +0100
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 2014 international? From: KaewWiki@gmail.com To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 21:58:25 +0700
From: Vacio vacio@riseup.net Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] 2014 international? To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 08:20:07 -0400
If we really need to have more volunteers for the international team, I believe that we can do so. But the question is probably beyond that:
What do you expect to get from an international team? Technical support? Value-added to the competition?
Best, Taweethaも
On 30 June 2014 05:16, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi all,
I was approached about the international website, after Saqib's email about this.
I see it this way: To the best of my knowledge, there is /no/ international wiki loves monuments competition in 2014 - not enough people volunteered for an international team. At the same time, there are some /national/ competitions that will be organized, but without a real international layer.
This is no problem, as we discussed before the possibility to have Wiki Loves Monuments international in odd years (2013, 2015 etc) and Wiki Loves Earth international in even years (2014, 2016 etc).
This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link to the commons page for more information about national competitions that may or may not happen in 2014.
If my assumptions here are off the chart, then please speak up. If I totally missed an announcement, please let me know.
Hope that helps and clarifies,
Lodewijk
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi All,
It is less than two months from September where we will open upload for participants. There are still ambiguities about the fate of the international team and the tasks that the team used to work on. We need to make a decision on this and move on quickly. It is difficult to do a press release or talk to a new partner if we are uncertain about our own internal process.
I believe that having an international team and international prizes can add a lot of value to the competition. The costs/resources may be drawn/collected from the participating national competitions. However, after two weeks with no response to the proposal, I now assume that no one else is interested in pursuing the idea.
Here are five areas that we have to think about...
1. The international website: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org and the sub-domains xx.wikilovesmonuments.org Who is in charge of this? What will we do about it? Last year, we advertised the URL th.wikilovesmonuments.org for participants to access our site. I suspect that we can't do it anymore. On top of that if the information is outdated, it would confuse participants when we launch our campaign. Many people just google WLM and click on the first page that shows up.
Sun Jun 29 22:16:28 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link to the commons page for more information about national competitions that may or may not happen in 2014.
2. Common info page: * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Interna... Still recruiting for the team? * https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Partici... The number of participating countries is 22. The map hasn't been updated for a while.
3. General coordination on critical tools: * Central notice * Upload wizard We wish that both of them are working the same way as last year.
Mon Jun 30 05:57:38 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
4. Marketing pitch/target group: * We use to lean on the popularity of the world record and the total sum of international prizes. Can we still point out to the fact that WLM has attained the world record in 2012? * Can we still use the WLM logo in certificates, trophies and other materials as usual? * Do we need to produce a bilingual website for a national competition? Do we have to participate in non-core activities like the central survey after the competition? * Assuming we have no international prizes this year but we have it next year, should we include finalists from this year into consideration of the next year prizes?
5. Central contact point: * We seem to have this mailing list as the only channel for all communication. Is this correct?
Best, Taweethaも
On 30 June 2014 19:44, KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international team. People from the previous years have set the standard to be very high.
Having said that we need to focus on the present. Many countries are organizing WLM. What value can we add to their competition if we have an international team? What will be the cost associated with the activities?
My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
- Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the
first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that participating countries abide by the judging rules.
Procure and distribute awards.
(Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level.
Collect statistics. Help countries that may have technical/financial difficulty.
I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014. You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from each country or you organize an election if too many people want to involve. But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
What do you guys think?
Taweetham
Hi Taweetha Its very clear that no one is interested to go for international team this year so lets please stop talking about it. I think you're from WLM Thailand, congrats on getting grant from WMF. I will try to answer some of your questions. 1. It will be you who will have to edit and update WLM Thai page on Commons as you did last year.2. Map is updated recently and will be updated again one a volunteer will have some spare time. Don't worry about it. Its not very important right now since countries are not confirmed yet. 3. Romaine will be handling it this year. If you have any problems with technical issues, contact him.4. I think you can definitely use WLM logos for promotion of national WLM as well printed material. I don't see a problem. I don't think thats a good idea to say winners that you'll be awarded international prizes next year.. If there's not international prize this year. No problem. At-least many offering national prizes. Thats enough.5. Yes mailing list is only communication tool as it was used to before. Saqib from Pakistan
From: KaewWiki@gmail.com Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:17:13 +0700 To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] international team
Hi All,
It is less than two months from September where we will open upload for participants. There are still ambiguities about the fate of the international team and the tasks that the team used to work on. We need to make a decision on this and move on quickly. It is difficult to do a press release or talk to a new partner if we are uncertain about our own internal process.
I believe that having an international team and international prizes can add a lot of value to the competition. The costs/resources may be drawn/collected from the participating national competitions. However, after two weeks with no response to the proposal, I now assume that no one else is interested in pursuing the idea.
Here are five areas that we have to think about...
- The international website: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org and
the sub-domains xx.wikilovesmonuments.org Who is in charge of this? What will we do about it? Last year, we advertised the URL th.wikilovesmonuments.org for participants to access our site. I suspect that we can't do it anymore. On top of that if the information is outdated, it would confuse participants when we launch our campaign. Many people just google WLM and click on the first page that shows up.
Sun Jun 29 22:16:28 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link to the commons page for more information about national competitions that may or may not happen in 2014.
- Common info page:
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Interna... Still recruiting for the team?
- https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Partici... The number of participating countries is 22. The map hasn't been
updated for a while.
- General coordination on critical tools:
- Central notice
- Upload wizard
We wish that both of them are working the same way as last year.
Mon Jun 30 05:57:38 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
- Marketing pitch/target group:
- We use to lean on the popularity of the world record and the total
sum of international prizes. Can we still point out to the fact that WLM has attained the world record in 2012?
- Can we still use the WLM logo in certificates, trophies and other
materials as usual?
- Do we need to produce a bilingual website for a national
competition? Do we have to participate in non-core activities like the central survey after the competition?
- Assuming we have no international prizes this year but we have it
next year, should we include finalists from this year into consideration of the next year prizes?
- Central contact point:
- We seem to have this mailing list as the only channel for all
communication. Is this correct?
Best, Taweethaも
On 30 June 2014 19:44, KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international team. People from the previous years have set the standard to be very high.
Having said that we need to focus on the present. Many countries are organizing WLM. What value can we add to their competition if we have an international team? What will be the cost associated with the activities?
My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
- Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the
first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that participating countries abide by the judging rules.
Procure and distribute awards.
(Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level.
Collect statistics. Help countries that may have technical/financial difficulty.
I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014. You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from each country or you organize an election if too many people want to involve. But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
What do you guys think?
Taweetham
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hi,
some in-line responses.
2014-07-14 11:17 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
Hi All,
It is less than two months from September where we will open upload for participants. There are still ambiguities about the fate of the international team and the tasks that the team used to work on. We need to make a decision on this and move on quickly. It is difficult to do a press release or talk to a new partner if we are uncertain about our own internal process.
I believe that having an international team and international prizes can add a lot of value to the competition. The costs/resources may be drawn/collected from the participating national competitions. However, after two weeks with no response to the proposal, I now assume that no one else is interested in pursuing the idea.
Here are five areas that we have to think about...
- The international website: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org and
the sub-domains xx.wikilovesmonuments.org Who is in charge of this? What will we do about it? Last year, we advertised the URL th.wikilovesmonuments.org for participants to access our site. I suspect that we can't do it anymore. On top of that if the information is outdated, it would confuse participants when we launch our campaign. Many people just google WLM and click on the first page that shows up.
Sun Jun 29 22:16:28 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link
to
the commons page for more information about national competitions that
may
or may not happen in 2014.
- Common info page:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Interna... Still recruiting for the team?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Partici... The number of participating countries is 22. The map hasn't been updated for a while.
- General coordination on critical tools:
- Central notice
- Upload wizard
We wish that both of them are working the same way as last year.
Mon Jun 30 05:57:38 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
- Marketing pitch/target group:
- We use to lean on the popularity of the world record and the total
sum of international prizes. Can we still point out to the fact that WLM has attained the world record in 2012?
I think using that as a marketing tool would be misleading - there is no way that 2014 attempts will break the 2013 record (which still needs to be recognized btw). But technically, you could refer to it. I would strongly urge not to emphasize it too prominently though, as it will be mostly disappointing afterwards and thus damaging for future attempts.
- Can we still use the WLM logo in certificates, trophies and other
materials as usual?
Sure.
- Do we need to produce a bilingual website for a national
competition? Do we have to participate in non-core activities like the central survey after the competition?
The survey will be a requirement for most grant-funded contests anyway - if one country sets it up, it is only a little extra effort (some translating and coordinating) to enable it for all countries. But you may need some international coordination here - especially with respect to timing.
- Assuming we have no international prizes this year but we have it
next year, should we include finalists from this year into consideration of the next year prizes?
No, it is impossible to promise even that there will be an international competition next year (although much more likely). But also, if you include even a single contribution of 2014 in the 2015 competition, any chance to break the world record will become zero. It is a hard requirement that the whole competition has to happen within a scope of three months - even if every country only uses one.
- Central contact point:
- We seem to have this mailing list as the only channel for all
communication. Is this correct?
Best, Taweethaも
On 30 June 2014 19:44, KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international team. People from the previous years have set the standard to be very high.
Having said that we need to focus on the present. Many countries are organizing WLM. What value can we add to their competition if we have an international team? What will be the cost associated with the activities?
My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
- Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the
first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that participating countries abide by the judging rules.
Procure and distribute awards.
(Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level.
Collect statistics. Help countries that may have technical/financial difficulty.
I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014. You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from each country or you organize an election if too many people want to involve. But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
What do you guys think?
Taweetham
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Thanks to Saqib and Lodewijk for quick responses that clear up many doubts.
FYI: 1. As soon as WMF approves our funding for WLM-TH, we will launch our PR campaign. We expect this in early August. Thanks to you guys, we now know what to write and not to write in the campaign. 2. WLM-TH has its own internal survey since 2013. We probably conduct it again this year at the conclusion of the event. We expect to conclude it early and move on to consider our position for WLM-TH 2015 or similar events e.g. WLE. Last year, we had our survey ready to deploy but waited for the international survey. Now, it is clear that we can go ahead without waiting.
On 14 July 2014 23:51, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
Hi,
some in-line responses.
2014-07-14 11:17 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
Hi All,
It is less than two months from September where we will open upload for participants. There are still ambiguities about the fate of the international team and the tasks that the team used to work on. We need to make a decision on this and move on quickly. It is difficult to do a press release or talk to a new partner if we are uncertain about our own internal process.
I believe that having an international team and international prizes can add a lot of value to the competition. The costs/resources may be drawn/collected from the participating national competitions. However, after two weeks with no response to the proposal, I now assume that no one else is interested in pursuing the idea.
Here are five areas that we have to think about...
- The international website: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org and
the sub-domains xx.wikilovesmonuments.org Who is in charge of this? What will we do about it? Last year, we advertised the URL th.wikilovesmonuments.org for participants to access our site. I suspect that we can't do it anymore. On top of that if the information is outdated, it would confuse participants when we launch our campaign. Many people just google WLM and click on the first page that shows up.
Sun Jun 29 22:16:28 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link to the commons page for more information about national competitions that may or may not happen in 2014.
- Common info page:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Interna... Still recruiting for the team?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Partici... The number of participating countries is 22. The map hasn't been updated for a while.
- General coordination on critical tools:
- Central notice
- Upload wizard
We wish that both of them are working the same way as last year.
Mon Jun 30 05:57:38 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
- Marketing pitch/target group:
- We use to lean on the popularity of the world record and the total
sum of international prizes. Can we still point out to the fact that WLM has attained the world record in 2012?
I think using that as a marketing tool would be misleading - there is no way that 2014 attempts will break the 2013 record (which still needs to be recognized btw). But technically, you could refer to it. I would strongly urge not to emphasize it too prominently though, as it will be mostly disappointing afterwards and thus damaging for future attempts.
- Can we still use the WLM logo in certificates, trophies and other
materials as usual?
Sure.
- Do we need to produce a bilingual website for a national
competition? Do we have to participate in non-core activities like the central survey after the competition?
The survey will be a requirement for most grant-funded contests anyway - if one country sets it up, it is only a little extra effort (some translating and coordinating) to enable it for all countries. But you may need some international coordination here - especially with respect to timing.
- Assuming we have no international prizes this year but we have it
next year, should we include finalists from this year into consideration of the next year prizes?
No, it is impossible to promise even that there will be an international competition next year (although much more likely). But also, if you include even a single contribution of 2014 in the 2015 competition, any chance to break the world record will become zero. It is a hard requirement that the whole competition has to happen within a scope of three months - even if every country only uses one.
- Central contact point:
- We seem to have this mailing list as the only channel for all
communication. Is this correct?
Best, Taweethaも
On 30 June 2014 19:44, KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international team. People from the previous years have set the standard to be very high.
Having said that we need to focus on the present. Many countries are organizing WLM. What value can we add to their competition if we have an international team? What will be the cost associated with the activities?
My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
- Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the
first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that participating countries abide by the judging rules.
Procure and distribute awards.
(Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level.
Collect statistics. Help countries that may have technical/financial difficulty.
I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014. You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from each country or you organize an election if too many people want to involve. But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
What do you guys think?
Taweetham
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Hello Taweetha,
Concerning point 4: I work on those. Just as in 2013.
Romaine
2014-07-14 11:17 GMT+02:00 KaewWiki KaewWiki@gmail.com:
Hi All,
It is less than two months from September where we will open upload for participants. There are still ambiguities about the fate of the international team and the tasks that the team used to work on. We need to make a decision on this and move on quickly. It is difficult to do a press release or talk to a new partner if we are uncertain about our own internal process.
I believe that having an international team and international prizes can add a lot of value to the competition. The costs/resources may be drawn/collected from the participating national competitions. However, after two weeks with no response to the proposal, I now assume that no one else is interested in pursuing the idea.
Here are five areas that we have to think about...
- The international website: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org and
the sub-domains xx.wikilovesmonuments.org Who is in charge of this? What will we do about it? Last year, we advertised the URL th.wikilovesmonuments.org for participants to access our site. I suspect that we can't do it anymore. On top of that if the information is outdated, it would confuse participants when we launch our campaign. Many people just google WLM and click on the first page that shows up.
Sun Jun 29 22:16:28 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote This has the implication that I will alter the website sometime soon to reflect this intention. I will remove the links to the national competitions from the sidebar to avoid outdated information. I will link
to
the commons page for more information about national competitions that
may
or may not happen in 2014.
- Common info page:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Interna... Still recruiting for the team?
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014/Partici... The number of participating countries is 22. The map hasn't been updated for a while.
- General coordination on critical tools:
- Central notice
- Upload wizard
We wish that both of them are working the same way as last year.
Mon Jun 30 05:57:38 UTC 2014 Lodewijk wrote Romaine is mostly making sure everybody has access to the upload forms and centralnotice - which is of critical importance too.
- Marketing pitch/target group:
- We use to lean on the popularity of the world record and the total
sum of international prizes. Can we still point out to the fact that WLM has attained the world record in 2012?
- Can we still use the WLM logo in certificates, trophies and other
materials as usual?
- Do we need to produce a bilingual website for a national
competition? Do we have to participate in non-core activities like the central survey after the competition?
- Assuming we have no international prizes this year but we have it
next year, should we include finalists from this year into consideration of the next year prizes?
- Central contact point:
- We seem to have this mailing list as the only channel for all
communication. Is this correct?
Best, Taweethaも
On 30 June 2014 19:44, KaewWiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hi All,
I understand that Lodewijk has his expectation for the international team. People from the previous years have set the standard to be very high.
Having said that we need to focus on the present. Many countries are organizing WLM. What value can we add to their competition if we have an international team? What will be the cost associated with the activities?
My opinion is that the minimal core tasks are:
- Find an acceptable judging methods (including juries) to rank the
first 10 photos out of [number of countries] x 10. Make sure that participating countries abide by the judging rules.
Procure and distribute awards.
(Not compulsory) Do some PR for WLM at the international level.
Collect statistics. Help countries that may have technical/financial difficulty.
I believe that it is doable by the countries participate in WLM 2014. You may ask for volunteers, you may ask for one representative from each country or you organize an election if too many people want to involve. But this has to be done now and conclude quickly...
What do you guys think?
Taweetham
Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org