Yes all commons categories are in English or should be in English. I still dream that
these categories should be translated with an English base. I'm speaking about a real
translation of categories, not about redirects which are not a solution.
Because for more efficient search on commons, we currently have to search on wikipedias
and then use the link given by the template commonscat (or derivative) when it is there.
Direct search don't give the same ressult in every language. In one hand commons
should be a multilingual and multimedia bank online, in another hand all is done to not
use commons directly...
But it's another debate...
Florian Farge aka Otourly
Sur lesprojets wikimédiens et l'Association française,sur OxyRadio, OSM, et sur MOVIM
Socio di Wikimedia Italia
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De : Kilian Kluge <kilian(a)k-kluge.de>
À : Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
<wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Envoyé le : Lundi 1 Août 2011 13h29
Objet : Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Identification structure on Commons, a must have before
1 september.
As far as I know, all monument categories on Commons are in English, at least that's
true for all german categories as well.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, I just made the category for the Austrian monuments and called
it Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte with the article "Denkmalgeschütztes Objekt" as
the main article for the category. I wanted to link to the similar category on Commons,
but that is called Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Austria.
>Why is that in English and not in the native language? Is there a reason for this
(perhaps it's a Bot-related reason?)
>Jane
>
>
>
>2011/7/31 Karl Gruber <karl.gruber(a)mmcx.net>
>
>Hi there,
>>Perhaps it would be better to use as abbreviaton the ISO-3166-1,
like AT
for Austria and so on and one common common english for each
category like monument-AT , -NL, PT and so on
>>
>>K@rl
>>
>>
>>
>>
Am 31.07.2011 20:41, schrieb AleXXw:
>>Hi there, Redirect should not any the problem
;) Most of the templates will be placed by Bots or German natives, so i think the
"Ö" shouldn't be a big issue. What name would you prefer, {{DOA}} isn't
my favorite...
>>>Greets
>>>--
>>>
>>>Alex
>>>
>>>On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 15:51, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hubert & Bas,
>>>>I was thinking of DOA for Denmalgeschutste Object of Austria, but that
also is short for "Dead on Arrival". Maybe abbreviations are not a good idea
after all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>After your first reaction Bas, I found another template for this type of
information on the English Wikipedia: Template:Designation. This template is used by the
Historical Sites WIkiproject, and there is some discussion to use it for the US NRHP
wikiproject (National Register of Historic Places). I think this template is what I was
looking for, and so whatever the Bots can live with on Commons is probably fine. The name
may be long, but it certainly is not ambiguous and everyone can see this is Austria and
not Germany or some other country that refers to monuments as "Denkmaler".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>2011/7/31 Bas vb <bas_v_b(a)hotmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>isn't a redirect possible?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>{{DOO}} or something, the most use of the name will be by bots.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Another thing:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I've set
up
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Commons…
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>MVg,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:42:47 +0200
>>>>>> From: hubert.laska(a)gmx.at
>>>>>
>>>>>> To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves
Monuments] Identification structure on
Commons, a must have before 1
september.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> we will rename our "reeeeeeally long Template-name"!
Inbetween 24 Hours!
>>>>>> Thanks for advice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> greetings
>>>>>> Hubertl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 31.07.2011 10:30, schrieb Jane Darnell:
>>>>>> > Bas,
>>>>>> > Thanks so much for your
mail - suddenly the whole template
thing became
>>>>>> > much clearer for me! I
need to gather all of these
templates now,
>>>>>> > because I would like to
set up a template structure on the
english
>>>>>> > wikipedia like the one
for
Template:Rijksmonument. I added the
text from
>>>>>> > your mail to the project
page here:
template has a reeeeeeally long
name. Of course I
>>>>>> > hope that the user
won't
need to type that in by hand, but is
there a
>>>>>> > way to shorten it up a
bit? I want to make a similar
template for the
>>>>>> > Austrian monuments on the
English wikipedia, and I noticed
many people
>>>>>> > use abbreviations for the
numbers (in Romania, it's called an
LMI number).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Jane
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2011/7/31 Hubert <hubert.laska(a)gmx.at
<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Austria will have this too
until September!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > greetings Hubertl
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Am 30.07.2011 19:02,
schrieb Bas vb:
>>>>>> > > Hello everybody,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Last year we had very
much benefits from a good and proper
>>>>>> > structure on
>>>>>> > > commons, important
was that we could tag the pictures
with the
>>>>>> > identifiers.
>>>>>> > > Currently there are 7
countries/areas which have this
structure
>>>>>> > > (see
>>>>>> >
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_heritage_monuments_with…)
>>>>>> > > - Andorra
>>>>>> > > - Flanders (Belgium)
>>>>>> > > - Estonia
>>>>>> > > - Netherlands
>>>>>> > > - Romania
>>>>>> > > - Spain
>>>>>> > > - Wallonia (Belgium)
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > The idea is to set up
a similar structure for all
participating areas
>>>>>> > > and countries
(whenever possible).
>>>>>> > > Together with
structured tables on the local wiki
(with the identifier
>>>>>> > > as a field) this
will
provide an easy way to add missing
pictures. And
>>>>>> > > well it's one of
the
requirements that pictures have an
identifier.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I think it's the best
idea when the other countries, which
don't
>>>>>> > have a
>>>>>> > > similar structure yet
contact me (I'm away from 4-13
august) or one of
>>>>>> > > the persons who has
allready set up a similar structure.
You can
>>>>>> > find me
>>>>>> > > on IRC (name "basvb"
if I'm not in the
Wikilovesmonumentschannel
>>>>>> > I'm in
>>>>>> > > #wikipedia-nl), on my
commons or preferably my nlwiki
talkpage or with
>>>>>> > > an e-mail.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Mvg,
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Bas
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
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