Well, we are of course open to continue with the contest in May as originally planned (you are of course right about the communication part). But if the experience when organizing WLM is that students are doing a large part of the work, then we could adjust it according to any of the three suggestions that I outlined below. We still haven't set anything in stone. How large part of the ones that have been active in organizing WLM are students? Does anyone have an idea?
Cheers,
John
From: basvb_wikipedia@live.nl
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 13:42:22 +0200
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs your help
Are exams in May that big of a problem? For a lot of people June (the month before vacations) is the month to finish a lot of work. Lodewijk mentioned the organisers having exams in May, but shouldn't most organizing happen before the contest? I think full months is the easiest for communicating.Greetings,Bas
From: johnandersson86@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 13:36:05 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs your help
Hi Lodewijk,
I like your ideas, especially the one about Wiki Loves Food which I think could be a really good mini-contest. However, this year I hope that you will share your expertise with WLPA! :-)
You have a really good point about the exams in May and I have been thinking hard about your suggestions.
At least in Sweden June would not work very well as a lot of people take their Summer vacation already by then and all the GLAMs that we might cooperate with would most likely be running at half speed that month (at least for the second half of June). Also I believe that we should not put WLPA too close to WLM as some of the organizers might work with both.
The problem with March is that it is too early for us to be able to organize everything in time and also in the Nordic countries March is not a very suitable month for outdoor photographing because of the bad weather.
That leaves April, but when looking at how Europe's weather was this year during Spring I am hesitant to put it entirely in April as well, also we would loose an entire month of time to organize it by moving it there.
To give us a bit more time to get everything in place, avoid the worst weather and make it possible for students to participate I therefor have three suggestion:
1. We could start the contest on the 15th of April and end it on the 15th of May; or
2. Extend the contest backward and have it from the 15th of April until the end of May, i.e. having it for 1.5 months instead of 1 month; or
3. Extend the contest forward from the 1st of May to the 15th of June, i.e. having it for 1.5 months instead of 1 month.
What do you all think about these suggestions? Which one would you think makes most sense?
All the best,
John
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From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:25:49 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs your help
Hi,interesting announcement :) I myself have been thinking of organizing a new 'Wiki Loves' in June 2013 (I don't think May is a good month due to the exams everywhere - and students will make up a significant part of the organizers), probably first in the Netherlands. I am still doubting between some 20 different ideas which were shared by several people; ranging from a relaunch of the good old 'Wiki Loves Art' (it would be preferable if WLPA could get a name that is not as easily confused with WLA) all the way to a Wiki Loves Food (photograph food items, dishes etc in your country/region) or Wiki Loves Concepts (photograph concepts like 'love', 'community', 'neighborhood', 'philosophy' etc as explanatory and useful as possible). Wiki Loves Public Art is amongst those ideas too (as are non-photo contests), although I should admit personally it is not my favorite :)So... would it perhaps make sense to do WLPA one or even two months earlier? (March/April) That way it would leave three months per year to do a contest (but imho running two in a country is already quite a challange!
Best,Lodewijk2012/7/2 Lori Phillips <lori.byrd.phillips@gmail.com>Thanks John,
It's exciting to see this getting off the ground. I want to remind that
WikiProject Public Art was established two years ago as a model for
photographing, researching, and creating articles about Public Artworks. It
was established under the leadership of Richard McCoy, conservator of
objects at the Indianapolis Museum of Art, and Jennifer Mikulay, a public
arts scholar and professor, both of which are Wikipedians in their own
right. While the Wikipedia Loves Public Art project may be photo-based,
the resources developed within WikiProject Public Art could prove useful -
and I hope that the wikiproject can plan a role.
I admit that the image guide and some of the process can be US-centric, if
only to keep us sane in developing this model to start. But it can be a
good jumping off point.
With Jane's suggestion of article-creation, I wanted to specifically point
out that WikiProject:Public Art has as its core goal the creation of
articles about Public Art, rather than image gathering. So if you're
interested in that being a component of Wikipedia Loves Public Art, there
are step by step guides that could be useful resources.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Public_art
This would also be useful to share on the public GLAM list as well! cc'ing
now : ).
Let me know if you have any questions,
Lori
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:23 AM, John Andersson
<johnandersson86@hotmail.com>wrote:
> Visit http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Europeana_Awareness/Englishfor more information about our project!
>
> Hi Jane,
>
> I am happy that you think that it sounds interesting!
>
> The idea is to have similar rules and structure as WLM, e.g. that the
> artworks should have a unique ID to be part of the contest. I think that we
> should not limit ourselves more right now until we know
> what type of data we can get our hands on in the different countries.
> I personally feel rather hesitant to create a specific definition for
> the contest that would differ from the official ones, that feel a lot
> like original research to me and also it could make it harder to use
> the data later on, as we then might have to sort out certain categories
> of artworks. That however mean that what exactly are considered public art
> then most likely will differ a bit between different countries, and perhaps
> between different regions. To get in contact with relevant parties that
> have the needed data is therefor a first step and if you are interested in
> contacting people/institutions in your country that would be very helpful!
>
> Also, I think that events focusing on connecting the pictures to Wikipedia
> would be fantastic and perhaps one could organize them to take place either
> at the same time or during the summer. If you have any cool ideas that you
> would like to work on please let me know!
>
> All the best,
>
> John
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> John Andersson
> Wikimedia Sweden (WMSE)
> Event Manager, Europeana Awareness
>
> Phone: +46(0)73-3965189
>
>
>
> Email: JohnAndersson86@hotmail.com
>
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>> JohnGreat initiative! Thanks for the tip, and good point about May vs.
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:01:26 +0200
> From: jane023@gmail.com
> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
> CC: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs
> your help
>
> Visit http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Europeana_Awareness/Englishfor more information about our project!> September regarding WLM, but these can easily be linked together, meaning
> Wiki(p/m)edians can take pictures of statues and other public art whilst
> working from a list of monument numbers...
>
> To be clear, are you going to keep your Public art idea like WLM's, in the
> sense that "only photos with a unique id taken during the competition month
> will be eligible for a prize"? WLM is basically just a Wikimedia Commons
> project, and the fruits of that project can be used by Wikipedia, but there
> is no Wikipedia part of the competition as it is today.
>
> Right off the top of my head I can think of lots of other ways to track
> public art, such as historical artworks commissioned by a governing body
> that once were on Square X and were replaced by artwork Y for reason Z,
> etc. This kind of tracking would require various references and would need
> to be integrated somehow with Wikipedia, I think, as pictures alone don't
> tell the whole story, the way pictures of physical monuments taken for WLM
> do.
>
> In other words, what is your precise, identifiable and verifiable
> definition of "public art", rather than "sculptures, mosaics, mural
> paintings, memorials and place specific installments in the public space"?
> Jane
>
> 2012/7/2 John Andersson <johnandersson86@hotmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hallo everybody,
>
>
>
> We have just started working with the Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA)[1]
> contest that will focus on getting pictures on sculptures, mosaics,
> mural paintings, memorials and place
> specific installments in the public space. If
> you are interested in public art, enjoy organizing events, think that it
> is cool and interesting to work with projects that increase cooperation
> between the Chapters, or would like to work towards GLAM in your
> country, well then this would be something for you! We are looking for
> all kinds of volunteers and especially for national coordinators that
> can help us get things going in the countries and coordinate the
> volunteer efforts!
>
>
> As
> we don't want to intrude upon the fantastic Wiki Loves Monument contest we
> are thinking about holding WLPA during the
> month of May in 2013. However, May will hopefully give us enough time to
> work on this and provide good enough weather
> so that the pictures look nice and people think that it is fun to go out
> and find the art works.
>
>
> We are of course aware of the tricky copyright legislations in
> different countries but thanks to the fact that this is organized
> together with Europeana (www.europeana.eu) we have the
> possibility to use Europeana's team of judicial experts in finding out
> answers on some of the questions. So if you have a question that is not
> answered on Commons:Freedom of Panorama[2] please write up your
> questions on relevant judicial matters on our list and we will forward
> it to Europeana.[3]
>
>
> Both me and the project leader, Lennart Guldbrandsson, will be at
> Wikimania and we would love to met and talk to you about this in person!
>
>
> I hope to hear from you soon!
>
> All the best,
>
> John
>
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> Wikimedia Sweden (WMSE)
> Event Manager, Europeana Awareness
>
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>
>
>
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