Terminology around monuments can be confusing and variable in different languages. There is a thesaurus of European Heritage Network that can be useful [1]. I think the term that adjusts it more appropiate is "monumental heritage", but each Wikipedia must follow its own naming conventions.
[1] http://thesaurus.european-heritage.net/sdx/herein/thesaurus/consult.xsp?nr=1167
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 12:27:12 +0200
From: jane023@gmail.com
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Blogs and interwiki's
Hi Everyone,
Continuing with my "interwiki" effort on the English Wikipedia that I started yesterday, I have decided (totally on my own) to name these objects "National Heritage Sites" rather than "Monuments". My reasoning is because on the English wikipedia there is a whole categorization structure already in place for Heritage sites and the one for Monuments are now for statues and war memorials(!!).
This gets confusing fast, so let me explain with the following examples:
1) The "White House" is a US National Heritage Site in Washington, DC.
2) The "Witte Huis" is a Dutch National Heritage Site in Rotterdam.
The term National Heritage Site should be available as a generic concept, and then per country as a [[National Heritage Site (Country name)]]. The term "Rijksmonument" is now titled as page "Rijksmonument" in the English Wikipedia, but it should also be redirected from [[National Heritage Site (Netherlands)]]. The same holds for pages about each country.
Ideally, per participating country, we should have pages on wikipedia for each [[National Heritage Site (Country name)]], as well as a concept page [[National Heritage Site]]. In Dutch this would I suppose not be [[Nationale Rijksmonument]], but something like [[Nationale Erfgoed Object]].
Following this logic, the White House should be listed on the English Wikipedia as [[National Heritage Site (US)]], and the Witte Huis as [[National Heritage Site (Netherlands)]]. In the Dutch Wikipedia, the White House is a [[Nationale Erfgoed Object (US)]] and the Witte Huis is a [[Rijksmonument]].
Suggestions and comments welcome!!
Jane
2011/7/7 Maarten Dammers
<maarten@mdammers.nl>
Hi everyone,
Check out http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/07/07/wikilovesmonuments/
(thank you Lodewijk!).
I like what Jane mentioned:
Op 7-7-2011 12:38, Jane Darnell schreef:
> I have created a "Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Monuments 2011" page on the
> English Wikipedia that can be used as a portal to the native projects
> where that information on how to look up the monument number can be
> stored. I put all the interwiki links in there that I could find. I
> also think we should make interwiki links to the "National Heritage
> Site" page in the main namespace. This can be used as a portal to the
> lists of numbers.
Let's try to get a page about Wiki Loves Monuments in as many language
Wikipedia's as possible and interwiki these pages together :-)
Maybe some part about the European aspect and a part about the more
local things of a certain language. Would be cool to have a long list!
Maarten
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