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Our regulation excludes members of the board of Wikimedia Polska, as
well, as their family relatives and employees. Which means for example
that my doughter cannot win the Polish contest :-) Polish civil code
precisely defines the meaning ot the "family relative" - I guess in
other jursdictions similar definition can be found.
I guess in case of the global jury - as the pictures are pre-selected
by local juries, there is no need for similar regulation.
2013/11/1 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>:
Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz> Hi Illia,
>
> Thanks for your email. Family members of the jury members are definitely a
> tricky terrain. If your rules stated that family members of jury members
> cannot take part, I think it is totally valid to disqualify these images.
>
> So first of all: yes, of course national rules can be more elaborate than
> the international rules. This is quite common actually - for example,
> several chapter give out 'Special Awards' or take other national issues in
> consideration. Conflict of Interest is one of these.
>
> Secondly, what qualifies as a family member, is a cultural question - this
> is something you should probably consider in the Ukrainian context. I
> personally definitely would consider it a family member, but I'm not very
> Ukrainian. It becomes more tricky with nephews etc.
>
> Thirdly you ask if the organizing committee can overrule the jury - now this
> is a really tricky one. Again there is some cultural background here
> probably. I'm used to a situation where the jury is considered the neutral
> body to make final decisions regarding prizes, and nobody would come up with
> an idea to overrule the jury, unless there are legal reasons or rules that
> require that. But in another country, it might very well be common to let
> the jury only be responsible for ranking, and then the organizers make the
> formal decision. This is something that is probably to be determined by your
> rules.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
>
> 2013/11/1 Ilya Korniyko <intracer@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi, Ukrainian organizing committe has trouble with one winner.
>>
>> In 2012 the chapter board set rules for Ukrainian part of the competition,
>> which contains a point that organizing committe members, jury and their
>> family members (I don't know how to translate precisely, and the correct
>> word matters here) cannot take part in the competition. According to our
>> rules places are determined by jury but organizing committee can disqualify
>> works.
>>
>> This year we found out only after final jury round that second place is
>> authored by one of jury member's father an his wife. While we have no direct
>> objections that this choice was unfair or biased, we thougth that it would
>> be difficult to understand by other people and may harm the contest
>> reputation. We decided not give the prize from the chapter but to present
>> this photo among 10 best to international competition and say that it was
>> seconf by jury decision but authors were not given prizes due to violation
>> of the rules as the organizing committe decided.
>>
>> Now the authors of this photo ask us questions
>>
>> 1) There is no prohibition in the international rules for jury members'
>> family. Does our chapter have a right to add additional criterias?
>> 2) Can a father be qualified as a family member? Is this a good criteria?
>> 3) Is this ok for organizing committee to override jury decision in this
>> case?
>>
>> Oranizing committe, the winner and jury member in question are in copy.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Illia
>>
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