The current uploadwizard is too corrupt and doesn't work correctly as at least we should expect. The onliest way it works correct is when a user accidentally fills it in perfectly, but that isn't the daily practice. If an uploadwizard is meant to be for dummies, then it should be dummyproof, and the current unstable uploadwizard isn't that at all and is too buggy. That is unacceptable to me for an official contest. I think it would be fantastic if we would get an uploadwizard that **really** makes it easier for people who have little experience with it, but the current uploadwizard makes it more difficult for them.

Greetings - Romaine
(organizing WLM BE/LUX)

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Kilian Kluge <kilian@k-kluge.de> wrote:

From: Kilian Kluge <kilian@k-kluge.de>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UploadWizard prototype
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 1:12 PM

Hi Romaine,

please keep in mind that the target group for the upload wizard are mainly non-wikipedians and hopefully also people that are new to computers (e.g. 60-year-old hobby photographers), and those will be very confused by the usual forms. The upload wizard divides the upload process (that is a very natural thing to you and me and everybody involved with WLM) into small steps and therefore is easier to complete.

Wikipedians and especially those who will upload hundreds of pictures will rely on Commonist and other tools, they can categorize their uploads by hand.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello all,

I am not happy at all with uploadwizard. The uploadwizard at Commons is annoying, this one is worse. I am certainly not going to send users to this uploadwizard. I just need one page in what users can fill in everything, including the monument-id. If that is too much asked for, fine, then we need to create our own uploadform.

Greetings - Romaine
(organizing WLM BE/LUX)


--- On Fri, 8/19/11, Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:

From: Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl>
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UploadWizard prototype
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 7:28 PM


Hi everyone,

The new upload wizard is available at http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard?campaign=wlm-nl now. Please play around with it and report any issues at https://secure.wikimedia. org/wikipedia/commons/ wiki/Commons:Wiki_ Loves_Monuments_ 2011/Upload_wizard

Thank you!

Maarten

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