I don't think we will gain that much new contributors using a more prominent sitenotice. Most people just ignore it. Just ask friends and family, do they read that message?
I organised WLM both in Belgium and South Africa, and I have far better experiences attracting people with a personal approach, eg. real life WLM events, our mailing list, Facebook groups.
Maybe we can use this mailing list to 'show of' / share more examples?To start of, Belgium will promote WLM during two events: next Monday (Antwerp) and next Friday (upload marathon Gent).Any more events planned?
Groeten, Maarten
_______________________________________________2013/9/20 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84@gmail.com>
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Michael Maggs <Michael@maggs.name> wrote:
It's not rude: it has a double meaning in English. Maybe this would not work in other languages.I think it's perfect :-)Aubreye, it sounds very rude.I would say something reminding that we are on the last days of the competition and that you can still help Wikipedia and win...
Osmar Valdebenito G.Director EjecutivoA. C. Wikimedia Argentina2013/9/19 Richard Symonds <richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk>This sounds very sensible.Richard SymondsWikimedia UK0207 065 0992Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects).Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.On 19 September 2013 16:34, Michael Maggs <Michael@maggs.name> wrote:_______________________________________________As there seems to be little international discussion about updating the CentralNotice text, I'm proposing in the next day or two to change the the text for the UK (only) toWhere have you been? Send us some photos!If anyone objects, please let me know.MichaelOn 12 Sep 2013, at 05:10, Karthik Nadar wrote:On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine_wiki@yahoo.com> wrote:
Perhaps the best place for talking about the banners of the CentralNotice is at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/CentralNoticeDiscussion kicks off there!-- Karthik.
Romaine
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On Wed, 9/11/13, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] drop off in submissions, banner
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2013, 7:45 PM
PeteUser:Smallbones
(oh, and ps: probably native
countries like the US and GB work very differently than
non-native English countries. Here participate would
definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would
only be confusing. But that is probably stating the
obvious)
2013/9/11 Lodewijk
<lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>
I think there are two major factors in our
image count:
1) new participants, people who never edited
before. 2) super uploaders, people with more
than 100 images
The highest contribution to the number of images
is 2) by a leap. This is mostly people with a reservoir of
images - primarily in Spain, Poland and Germany.
The banner has primarily an influence on 1),
which is also important. I definitely wouldn't mind a
change in the banner, but I would suggest to let that
coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly
situated - the original plan was to run it in August). In
some other countries, there are more banners competing even
(like in NL, a conference banner with call for
speakers).
Another way than the wording, is the
design.
I would suggest we continue this 'what is the
best banner' discussion on a talkpage somewhere, to keep
it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good location for
that?
Lodewijk
2013/9/11 Michael
Maggs <Michael@maggs.name>
Both
"Snap a snapshot for
Wikipedia" and "It's a snap, Wiki Loves
Monuments"
are the best I
have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well as
the US. Maybe have them both running at 50%
?
Michael
On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41,
Peter Ekman wrote:
I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted
in the last few days. It's fairly important to
determine what caused the drop off if we can. It might be
something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation
in Syria, but might be something like a change in banner
display, which we do have some control over. Did the drop
happen in most countries? We don't have full control
over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the space
with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some
of their displays if we ask nicely.
I do agree that changing the banner from
time-to-time can help. I don't agree that a banner of
""Participate
in the world's largest photo-contest and
help Wikipedia,"
would help any. The imperative verb
"Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to
American English speakers. It suggests a high school home
economics teacher telling us that we have to bring cookies
to the annual bake-off. Something more active is
definitely needed, something along the line (but not
exactly) of a high school football coach saying "Go out
there and kick some butt!" That would definitely get
some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of
attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g.
"About your photos on Wikipedia .... (smaller type)
upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"
"Snap"
might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the
action that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike
"participate." So perhaps "Snap a historic
site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people up. Or
maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun
"It's a snap, Wiki Loves
Monuments"
I don't
think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner,
but I think that folks should brain-storm this and come up
with new ideas. Straight informative banners can sound
bureaucratic or just boring. Different languages or
dialects should be considered separately, as translations
are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might
mean something entirely different in British
English
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