No voter will watch all images (or maybe not even a big part), so I think a public voting system will only work with lists up to a maximum of 500 pictures. Watching 10.000 pictures (and some will have 50k) just takes quite some time (1-2 days). 

Last year I scrolled to the categories (looking 200 pictures in 10 seconds), every picture that I liked or jumped out was then opened in a new tab by me, and if I liked the picture I copied the link and added it to a page with wikistyle pictures on big size (700px) this page I watched in preview edit mode and this way narrowed down the selection. 

I think a basic but strong to tool to speed this up very much is to skip the copy the link and place it somewhere else part of that and make that a simple mouseclick. 

so you start with a huge category, you go throught that page by page (200 pictures a time), and select those that you like (the add pictures to list mode). These will then show in a list (where you can pick the pixel size), there you have a delete mode to delete pictures not good enough. The only thing is, no saving on Commons should be involved because participants/everybody shouldn't see what the juries select (at least not to soon).

You can also consider voting, but I think that only voting for all the 10-50k pictures in some country will not work at all, because then you at least need like 20 people who watch all pictures (and are a bit neutral (eg not vote own pictures or ask friends)), if people only look to the most voted pictures, or some 500 pictures picked some way (by name etc) then very good pictures will be missed. You just need some neutral people to watch everything and make selections. After that you might choose to let the public vote on these selections (say the selections consist of 50-500 pictures.

I simply think that getting a rating on every image will be impossible, that will take people days. 

Mvg, 

Bas

From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 18:47:11 +0200
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] jury process - easy and neat?

Hi Katie,

I'm particularly referring to the national processes here. I saw someone mention that India might get 100.000 images... (worst case?) and that got me thinking ;) Every country will have a slightly different process. 

I think it is a nice approach to have people rate. If we can just then add access options (access for all, or for a specified group). I don't have a clou if WP is the best option. But bear in mind the interface should be able to hold up to 100.000 images. Ideally:

* It would allow organizers to simply insert a list of commons file names for the photos
* It would allow organizers to specify who should have access to the voting interface
* It would allow organizers to have an overview of who voted, how often
* it would allow the user to show X images on a page, on a specified size and rank each of them
* It would allow the user to sort based on name, date, number of rankings and current ranking
* It would include a simple option (clicking) to enlarge the picture, and include a link to the detail page on commons. 

Does that make sense? 

Lodewijk

2012/6/21 aude <aude.wiki@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
Hi all,

is there anyone who would be willing to help set up a jury process tool that can be used in multiple countries? I'm looking for a software tool that makes juring more easy than going through commons categories. Would be happy to brainstorm if someone is willing to work it out. 

We have a technical volunteer "intern" helping us in DC and this is something he wants to work on.

I'm not exactly sure how the process worked last year, but we're thinking either integrating something into the WordPress site so that people can browse photos (pulled from Commons, like InstantCommons) and rate them.  A public voting phase could help narrow the selection for the jury, which could also make use of the tool.

Thoughts? suggestions? brilliant ideas?

Cheers,
Katie

 

Thanks!

Lodewijk

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