On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:
I also would like to thanks the international team's effort in this and the previous years, they did a really great and very important job.
Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada schreef op 11-1-2014 20:13:
Hi all;
Will we see in 2014 a new edition of WLM? I don't see any coordination messages or pages in Commons.
As pointed out by others we seem to have three pages:
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2014
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Earth_2014
* https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Public_Art_2014
In my opinion we should not organize Wiki Loves Monuments in 2014 and not even local competitions under that name. Wiki Loves Monuments was very successful over the last couple of years and of course people are eager to continue with that, but I'm very afraid of the sequel syndrome: Each next edition gets worse than the previous one. I'd rather not do it this year and maybe do it again in 2015 or 2016. Than everyone who is a bit fed up with the project might be up to a new edition.
In global sense it can be true -- specially if the experienced international team gives up support it and we couldn't find a new one with members into every role -- but shouldn't be true in local level. Many countries joined to this project only last year or plan to join this year, and in these countries the competition is in a growing and increasing stage. In my opinion we shouldn't forbid for these countries organizing an international competition together or organizing a competition under the name of WLM.
I'm not even sure if we should do a photo competition this year, we don't want to become a one trick movement.
Our movement not a one trick movement at all, but part of the community interested more in the photos (and other multimedia files). And this part like organizing competitions around these media files.
It doesn't mean that we can not or shouldn't organize other type of activities or projects.
If we would do one I would opt in for the Earth one, I love public art, but the whole (lack of) freedom of panorama is a pain in the ass. Wiki Loves Earth does seem to be quite late in the whole organization if you compare it one of the previous WLM time lines (like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline).
One thing I would like is that the language Wikipedia's have "heritage" as the writing theme for September 2014.
Something else. All these projects seem to rely on ErfgoedBot. That's hosted on the Toolserver and unless someone else takes it over, I'm going to let it die with the Toolserver. Might be a bit inconvenient if you're in the middle of a photo competition.
My feeling, that if you wouldn't / couldn't support the following contests with your knowledge, it will be a big loss and I am not sure we will be able to substitute you :(
Will the codes of all your tools are available under free license for others who could maintain this tools for other competitions?
Are there other experienced users in the community (ideally on this mailing list) who could run these tools?
Something else: I read several emails in the past weeks about tools which will be unavailable after close of the Toolserver (and the tools should migrate to the new Labs, but they couldn't or don't want). I am really disappointed about this. (Earlier we lost a lot of nice tools because accounts expired after 1(?) year.)
Samat