Yes all commons categories are in English or should be
in English. I
still dream that these categories should be translated with an English
base. I'm speaking about a real translation of categories, not about
redirects which are not a solution.
Because for more efficient search on commons, we currently have to
search on wikipedias and then use the link given by the template
commonscat (or derivative) when it is there.
Direct search don't give the same ressult in every language. In one
hand commons should be a multilingual and multimedia bank online, in
another hand all is done to not use commons directly...
But it's another debate...
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*De :* Kilian Kluge <kilian(a)k-kluge.de>
*À :* Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
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*Envoyé le :* Lundi 1 Août 2011 13h29
*Objet :* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Identification structure on
Commons, a must have before 1 september.
As far as I know, all monument categories on Commons are in
English, at least that's true for all german categories as well.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com
<mailto:jane023@gmail.com>> wrote:
Actually, I just made the category for the Austrian monuments
and called it Denkmalgeschütztes Objekte with the article
"Denkmalgeschütztes Objekt" as the main article for the
category. I wanted to link to the similar category on Commons,
but that is called Category:Cultural heritage monuments in
Austria.
Why is that in English and not in the native language? Is
there a reason for this (perhaps it's a Bot-related reason?)
Jane
2011/7/31 Karl Gruber <karl.gruber(a)mmcx.net
<mailto:karl.gruber@mmcx.net>>
Hi there,
Perhaps it would be better to use as abbreviaton the
ISO-3166-1, like AT for Austria and so on and one common
common english for each category like monument-AT , -NL,
PT and so on
K@rl
Am 31.07.2011 20:41, schrieb AleXXw:
Hi there, Redirect should not any the
problem ;) Most of
the templates will be placed by Bots or German natives,
so i think the "Ö" shouldn't be a big issue. What name
would you prefer, {{DOA}} isn't my favorite...
Greets
--
Alex
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 15:51, Jane Darnell
<jane023(a)gmail.com <mailto:jane023@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hubert & Bas,
I was thinking of DOA for Denmalgeschutste Object of
Austria, but that also is short for "Dead on
Arrival". Maybe abbreviations are not a good idea
after all.
After your first reaction Bas, I found another
template for this type of information on the English
Wikipedia: Template:Designation. This template is
used by the Historical Sites WIkiproject, and there
is some discussion to use it for the US NRHP
wikiproject (National Register of Historic Places). I
think this template is what I was looking for, and so
whatever the Bots can live with on Commons is
probably fine. The name may be long, but it certainly
is not ambiguous and everyone can see this is Austria
and not Germany or some other country that refers to
monuments as "Denkmaler".
Jane
2011/7/31 Bas vb <bas_v_b(a)hotmail.com
<mailto:bas_v_b@hotmail.com>>
isn't a redirect possible?
{{DOO}} or something, the most use of the name
will be by bots.
Another thing:
I've set up
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Commons…
MVg,
Bas
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:42:47 +0200
From: hubert.laska(a)gmx.at
<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
To: wikilovesmonuments(a)lists.wikimedia.org
<mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments]
Identification structure on Commons, a must have
before 1 september.
we will rename our "reeeeeeally long
Template-name"!
Inbetween 24 Hours!
Thanks for advice!
greetings
Hubertl
Am 31.07.2011 10:30, schrieb Jane Darnell:
> Bas,
> Thanks so much for your mail - suddenly the
whole
template thing became
> much clearer for me! I need to gather all of
these templates now,
> because I would like to set up a template
structure on the english
> wikipedia like the one for
Template:Rijksmonument. I added the text from
> your mail to the project page here:
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011#How_to_con…
>
> Hubert, I noticed your template has a
reeeeeeally long
name. Of course I
> hope that the user won't need to type
that in
by hand, but is there a
> way to shorten it up a bit? I want to make a
similar template for the
> Austrian monuments on the English wikipedia,
and I noticed many people
> use abbreviations for the numbers (in
Romania, it's called an LMI number).
>
> Jane
>
> 2011/7/31 Hubert <hubert.laska(a)gmx.at
<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>
<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at
<mailto:hubert.laska@gmx.at>>>
>
> Austria will have this too until September!
>
> greetings Hubertl
>
> Am 30.07.2011 19:02, schrieb Bas vb:
> > Hello everybody,
> >
> > Last year we had very much benefits from a
good and
proper
> structure on
> > commons, important was that we could tag
the
pictures with the
> identifiers.
> > Currently there are 7 countries/areas which
have
this structure
> > (see
>
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Cultural_heritage_monuments_with…)
> > - Andorra
> > - Flanders (Belgium)
> > - Estonia
> > - Netherlands
> > - Romania
> > - Spain
> > - Wallonia (Belgium)
> >
> > The idea is to set up a similar structure
for all
participating areas
> > and countries (whenever possible).
> > Together with structured tables on the
local wiki
(with the identifier
> > as a field) this will provide an easy
way
to add missing pictures. And
> > well it's one of the requirements
that
pictures have an identifier.
> >
> > I think it's the best idea when the other
countries, which don't
> have a
> > similar structure yet contact me (I'm away
from
4-13 august) or one of
> > the persons who has allready set up a
similar structure. You can
> find me
> > on IRC (name "basvb" if I'm not in the
Wikilovesmonumentschannel
> I'm in
> > #wikipedia-nl), on my commons or preferably
my
nlwiki talkpage or with
> > an e-mail.
> >
> > Mvg,
> >
> > Bas
> >
> >
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