Hi,

I see a lot of discussion about how to get the data into wikidata. That is good and needs to be done, but erfgoedbot did a lot more.

Beside the harvesting (getting the list into the database), there were scripts using the data. At least for the dutch competition, people who uploaded a picture only specified the ID. Scripts used that id to find the data of that monument and add categories like “rijksmonument in <city>” instead of just “rijksmonument”. Also if it was known from the monument database it was a windmill (for example) it would be categorised as such.

Another important one is making lists of id’s where in the lists there is no picture but there is a picture uploaded. Volunteers would then look at that list and add a picture to the list. This worked quite well for the motivation, because people made a picture, uploaded it, and a couple of days later the picture showed up in the list.

If we think about the future, we will need to think about this side as well. The first one is needed to make the pictures being able to be found and not just a bunch of pictures. The first one is doable I guess, but I fear a bit about the second one. Because the lists are not regularly  imported, you don’t know if there is a picture, so we need a way to detect this. I believe there are properties to document a picture, so the storing isn’t the problem I guess.

Regards,

André

On 26 jul. 2015, at 08:42, Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,
I guess everyoe knows by now that the erfgoedbot will no longer work. Meanwhile, we should be migrating the entire infrastructure to Wikidata to enable the next generation of tooling. So for example, if your country has legislation regarding the protection of industrial monuments, then I expect that all large industrial complexes (such as the first airport, or the first steam-powered mill complex, or something like that) should reflect this infrastructure. So such wikipedia articles should be labelled " instance of"  <the name of your identifier used in WLM>. This identifier of the form " German industrial heritage site", aka "Industriedenkmal"  should be a subclass of Industrial Heritage Site, because it is not equivalent to industrial heritage sites anywhere else in the world. I see that this is not reflected yet in Q1569871

I didn't see this discussion anywhere and I tried to get this infrastructure started before the birth of Wikidata, but we really should finish the job now.
Jane
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