I aggree with both of you, these are the main goals
(Personally I prefer Lodewijk's approach, I think community building and
outreach is more important than simple content creation, at least for us.)
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
I think this is a clear demonstration that WLM is
a diverse project :)
You identify that having a picture for each monument is the main goal, but
as you know I disagree with that: for me the competition is and will always
be a tool to get more people on board, to get people aware of the fact they
can contribute, and help them over the threshold. For many local
competitions, it is more important however to use WLM as a community
building tool. I have seen great outcomes in this field in the Middle East,
where communities work together in real life for one of their first main
projects, and after that continue to organize other activities as well.
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com>
The focus of the evaluation is very much biased.
The focus is too much on money, it gives me a horrible feeling, the
community/participants are not a factory plant in what every employee needs
to work a minimum number of hours. The goal of Wiki Loves Monuments is to
get all monuments with a good picture on Wikipedia, not just of the most
popular or easy monuments. The first time a contest as such is organised
the low hanging fruits are done first, but they forget to mention that
getting the low hanging fruits is not the core goal of Wiki Loves
Monuments. The goal of Wiki Loves Monuments is to get a photo of every
monument. The more monuments get a picture, it becomes much harder to ge a
picture of the other monuments. It are too much easy thoughts without
thinking it through. It is failing in describing the actual situation and
misses totally what Wiki Loves Monuments is about.
WMF has set some objectives for itself, and now the evaluate those
objectives/goals, even while Wiki Loves Monuments has a different focus.
To me the evaluation is a signal that WMF is too far away from the
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