Hi Josephine!

Would it not be possible to set up a customizing table that enables users to set the property used in a specific country for monuments? 

The WLM ID is only used by countries that don't have their own monument ID and is not commonplace. Even if you started copying monument IDs to the WLM ID, you'd have to run a daily job to check if those two IDs are still in sync.

BR,
Philip

On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 at 11:05, Kimmo Virtanen <kimmo.virtanen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I don't  have an opinion on what it should be, but if I remember correctly the Monumental's method was to include all items with P625 and P1435 values. P1435 however doesn't work least in Sweden.

Br,
-- Kimmo Virtanen

On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 12:37 PM Jernej Polajnar <jpolajnar.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

"Wiki Loves Monuments ID" is self-referential, I don't think it would be a good replacement for IDs in national monument databases - for example, those can be linked to external database entries, while P2186 can't be. If anything, P2186 could be used an additional ID, with own set of values or mirroring the national IDs. Although, own set of values would probably be a better idea to avoid conflicts between countries.

Jernej



On 29. 04. 2021 11:27, Josephine Lim wrote:
Hi all,

Hope you are all safe and well. After having finalized our plans for WLM integration into the Commons app based on community feedback (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Mobile_app/WLM , which was posted to this mailing list a couple of months ago), we have started work on implementation.

We have run into a bit of an issue, however, that we are hoping to get help with. The initial plan (based on the discussion at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2020-July/009263.html and at the abovementioned wiki page) was to use Wikidata as our data source, displaying all Wikidata items with the identifier property of P2186 (Wiki Loves Monuments ID) on our map.

However we have now found out that some countries don't use P2186 at all. Someone kindly linked https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_WLM/Status#Table to me, and based on that it seems that there is a rather large variety of identifiers that different countries use.

Realistically speaking, it would be really difficult for us to account for every possible identifier that every country uses, and it would also make stability and maintenance much more tricky. We can try, but it would be risky and tedious.

On the other hand, it was suggested to me that if there is WLM community consensus that P2186 should be used as a universal identifier, countries might be willing to adopt P2186 for the sake of harmonization.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? 

Many thanks.


Best regards,
Josephine / User:misaochan, Commons app project lead

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