60-70% of the dutch images is used on the dutch wiki lodewijk. only 7-10% of the european images is used on nl wiki. Maybe the error is in that it counts the second?

Mvg,

Bas


From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:25:59 +0200
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings - v2 ready?

wow - only 1 in 50 submitted images (2%) for the Netherlands is being used in Wikipedia? :s I am not sure if that is actually correct though... 50% sounded much more like my empirical understanding. A quick sample gave me 6/14 images being used on Wikipedia. >confusion<

Am 14. September 2011 16:19 schrieb Strainu <strainu10@gmail.com>:
Yes, the stats seem ok, at least for Romania. Thanks!

2011/9/14 Nuno Tavares <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>:
> Strainu,
>
> Indeed, the label was somewhat incorrect. That column represents
> "average images per use", not a percentage, so it has been fixed.
>
> But the stats now are as true as possible, I believe.
>
> --
> Nuno Tavares
> Wikimedia Portugal
> http://www.wikimedia.pt
>
> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
>
>
> Em 14-09-2011 13:20, Lodewijk escreveu:
>> Hi Nuno,
>>
>> thanks for the update! I remember that in the old version, the countries
>> were clickable to give you stats per country - would that be again
>> possible? :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> Am 14. September 2011 12:19 schrieb Nuno Tavares
>> <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>:
>>
>>     Strainu,
>>
>>     I've already stated that ranking.php has problems. I found late some
>>     weird behaviours from mediawiki (like Rotatebot appearing as the image
>>     uploader, which is not correct) so I had to apply some "emergency"
>>     measures which didn't work quite well either. I didn't state "new users"
>>     which an important detail in my opinion.
>>
>>     That's why you probably heard about statistics v2 already:
>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/api/api.php?action=statisticsct&format=html&ctscope=country>
>>
>>     I believe these are nearly complete and absolutely more precise. As a
>>     consequence, everything at this URL (scope=user, dump, etc) is.
>>
>>     Please give me your feedback regarding the tool.
>>
>>     --
>>     Nuno Tavares
>>     Wikimedia Portugal
>>     http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>
>>     Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
>>     livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que
>>     estamos a fazer.
>>
>>     Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>
>>     Em 13-09-2011 21:53, Strainu escreveu:
>>     > Hi Nuno,
>>     >
>>     > Could you please explain the limitations of your tool?
>>     >
>>     > I thought you just take the last person that modified the page, but
>>     > I'm looking at
>>     http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Romania>
>>     > and I see the following:
>>     >
>>     > - I have 76 files credited to my account, however
>>     >
>>     http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu
>>     <http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&user=Strainu&title=Special%3AListFiles%2FStrainu>
>>     > shows that I have under 50 actually uploaded
>>     > - I edited all but one of this user's files:
>>     > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Adinecsoi , but
>>     > they are still credited to her
>>     > - I also edited several other files of this user:
>>     > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Korinna And it
>>     > appears she is credited with less than the total number of photos (as
>>     > far as I can tell, all her uploads are in the contest)
>>     >
>>     > I would love if you could clarify this for me.
>>     >
>>     > Thanks,
>>     >   Strainu
>>     >
>>     > 2011/9/5  <nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
>>     <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>>:
>>     >> Errmmmm, *cof* I forgot to update ~erfgoed/tools. Try again
>>     Vicenç (and
>>     >> Lodewijk).
>>     >>
>>     >> In any case, more interesting (and thorough) statistics will come
>>     during
>>     >> this week (I hope), this was just for fun.
>>     >>
>>     >> -NT
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:13:17 +0000, Vicenç Riullop
>>     <vriullop@hotmail.com <mailto:vriullop@hotmail.com>>
>>     >> wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> Seems it doesnt work with Spain either.
>>     >> Now,
>>     >>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=Spain>
>>     >> returns user Pere prlpz with 148 submissions and he doesnt appear
>>     in the
>>     >> global list.
>>     >>
>>     >> Anyway, good work, Nuno.
>>     >>
>>     >> Vicenç
>>     >>
>>     >>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 08:27:25 +0100
>>     >>> From: nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>
>>     >>> To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
>>     <mailto:wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
>>     >>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] New tool: rankings
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Thanks Lodewijk,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> It had to do with bot filtering. It should be OK now.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> --
>>     >>> Nuno Tavares
>>     >>> Wikimedia Portugal
>>     >>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade
>>     de ter
>>     >>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso
>>     o que
>>     >>> estamos a fazer.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Em 05-09-2011 07:59, Lodewijk escreveu:
>>     >>>> Hi Nuno,
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> thanks for the work! It seems that the full overview of
>>     uploaders is not
>>     >>>> error free. I.e.
>>     >>>> in
>>     >>>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=30&show=images|links&country=the_Netherlands>
>>     >>>> Spider
>>     >>>> has now 219 uploads for NL, but
>>     >>>> on http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php he doesn't
>>     appear
>>     >>>> at all.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Interesting to see by the way how some countries have such higher
>>     >>>> averages of photos per uploader :)
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Lodewijk
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Am 5. September 2011 05:02 schrieb Nuno Tavares
>>     >>>>> :
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> I see I'm not the only statsanatic :)
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> I've commited the tool, please use the official URL:
>>     >>>> http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Examples:
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~erfgoed/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> --
>>     >>>> Nuno Tavares
>>     >>>> Wikimedia Portugal
>>     >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade
>>     de ter
>>     >>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso
>>     o que
>>     >>>> estamos a fazer.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Participe também: http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> Em 04-09-2011 21:53, M escreveu:
>>     >>>>> Thirded, very cool!
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> ---------------
>>     >>>>> María Sefidari
>>     >>>>> Wikimedia España
>>     >>>>> http://www.wikimedia.org.es
>>     >>>>> Mensaje enviado desde mi iTouch
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> El 04/09/2011, a las 22:04, Jan Ainali > >
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>> escribió:
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>>> I second that, nice work!!
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Jane Darnell <> > >jane023@gmail.com
>>     <mailto:jane023@gmail.com>
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> Nuno,
>>     >>>>>> I love it - keep the statistics coming, I like the way you think!
>>     >>>>>> Jane
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> 2011/9/4 Nuno Tavares
>>     >>>>>> <> > >nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt
>>     <mailto:nuno.tavares@wikimedia.pt>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> Now, the rankings per country (parameter scope):
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?&show=images|links&scope=country>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> --
>>     >>>>>> Nuno Tavares
>>     >>>>>> Wikimedia Portugal
>>     >>>>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a
>>     >>>> possibilidade
>>     >>>>>> de ter
>>     >>>>>> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É
>>     >>>>>> isso o que
>>     >>>>>> estamos a fazer.
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> Participe também:
>>     >>>> http://www.wikimedia.pt
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> Em 04-09-2011 20:30, Nuno Tavares escreveu:
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> Clicking on a country (Portugal):
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal
>>     <http://toolserver.org/~ntavares/patrimonio/tools/rankings.php?limit=10&show=images|links&country=Portugal>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> If you notice Accepted column: for Portugal we review the
>>     >>>>>> images and,
>>     >>>>>>> after that, they are placed in "Reviewed images from
>>     >>>>>> WLM...". If you
>>     >>>>>>> have a similar approach I can tweak the script to
>>     >>>>>> personalize it. It
>>     >>>>>>> would be better to unify the categories' names, though...
>>     >>>>>> Which ones are
>>     >>>>>>> yours?
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> PS: I didn't notice the reuploads (e.g. by Rotatebot) would
>>     >>>>>> scramble
>>     >>>>>>> things a bit, so I excluded the bots from this - admitting
>>     >>>>>> noone would
>>     >>>>>>> reupload other one's image. So please report if you see
>>     >>>>>> something in error.
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> -NT
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