What happened with the discussion with WMF about the mobile app? Could you give us all some feedback?
Thanks so much!
Isla
Hi All
I’m really glad you have started up this conversation, the South African WLM team were just discussing it yesterday! Smart phone penetration in South Africa is very high and it would be an essential tool for both WLM, in the immediate future, and WM Commons in the long term. It is an invaluable tool and should be built properly so that it works for android, blackberry (very popular in Africa) and iphone – but then, I am not sure what the WM dev processes are.
>From the African context, we expect that the WLM photo competition with be the first time that many people will be contributing to Wikipedia. With this in mind, this is the kind of functionality that would be 1st prize:
- drop down selection of country (or that the app would recognise which country you are in and automatically ‘point’ to the right list)
- simple registration – to the competition and wikipedia at the same time (name, username, email, cellphone, language)
- ability to locate and link the photo/video to the heritage site they want to photo (they don’t have to see what others have uploaded)
- ability to ‘nominate’ a heritage site that is not on the list (due to SA’s complex history, monuments are very ‘colonial’ and many people have very different ideas of what should be labelled a heritage site or monument)
- geolocation (some of our monuments/heritage sites haven’t yet been geolocated)
- and joining the world of social media, the ability to seamlessly share each photo across all social media platforms – facebook, twitter, foursquare and others to get maximum buzz and interest in the competition.
Other ‘nice to have’s’ would be:
- the ability to pull the photos in from such platforms as instagram, viddy, foursquare, etc. (are they allowed to ‘doctor’ the photo?)
- to upload multiple photos – such as many angles of a building or statue at once.
- simple photography suggestions/tutorial (minimum sizes, framing, etc. into account) so we can get the best possible quality
- a call for people to contribute text about the heritage site that they have just uploaded.
Not being a developer, I am not sure how difficult these things are to achieve. Is it possible?
Warmest
Isla
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From: Jan Ainali <jan.ainali@wikimedia.se <http://jan.ainali@wikimedia.se> >
Reply-To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <http://wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:37:15 +0200
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org <http://wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org> >
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Quick survey: your thoughts about a mobile app
Sure, they are not super high quality, but a photo from a smartphone can be good enough to become a Quality Image. [1]
Your second comment is really important, it is easy to shoot a video from the phone, but a pain to upload it. Right now you first have to transfer it to the computer and then convert it to ogv before you can upload it. A stage area where you upload videos where they are batchconverted to ogv would be nice.
[1] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kiev_monument_140.jpg
/Jan Ainali
2012/4/11 rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner@gmail.com <http://rupert.thurner@gmail.com> >
hi elya,
if the mobile app helps:
* to locate the monument
* to show what fotos already exist
* to enter the contest
* to add metadata
it would be nice.
but i cannot imagine a workflow which helps uploading high quality
images. i like the mobile strategy a lot - but developping an upload
app is maybe too tempting nowadays as instagram got bought by
facebook.
rupert
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 21:27, elya <ew_wp@web.de <http://ew_wp@web.de> > wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to share some discussion points we had recently with the
> foundation's mobile app development. I would highly appreciate your
> opinions, ideas and thoughts. Unfortunately, my next call with WMF is
> already tomorrow evening (sorry for that).
>
> The WMF will most probably develop an upload app for smartphones. We are
> invited to provide ideas and requests for our - WLM - needs.
>
> The basic, most simplified upload workflow would be borrowed from the
> upload wizard and adapted to smartphones for the mobile Wikipedia
> browser app.
>
> Another idea is an advanced workflow that would be provided already as
> an Android or iPhone app (based on the PhoneGap framework), with
> extended options for geolocation, additional campaigns like WLM or
> uploading an image straight from the article (monuments list...)
>
> From my point of view, the most realistic approach (given WMF's
> depolyment cycles and the timeline) is the basic mobile browser app -
> that does not help us very much for WLM in its basic design, and due to
> iOS restrictions it most probably would not work for iPhones. However,
> maybe it could be slightly extended for our needs.
>
> From your point of view:
>
> 0) How do you generally feel about the mobile upload app for WLM - from
> an international perspective?
> 1) What do you generally think would be a minimal requirement to make a
> mobile app usable/helpful for WLM?
> 2) What would be next on your wishlist to make it real fun?
> 3) Any ideas how a team of volunteer developers could support staff
> developers effectively with the mobile app? (I'll have to discuss that)
> 4) anything I did not consider here?
>
> Some details about the plans can be found here:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MobileFrontend/Photo_upload#Wiki_Loves_Monuments
>
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> Regards,
> Elke
>
>
>
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