Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well?
Thanks!
Best,
Lodewijk
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki <KaewWiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I understand that the training is designed to transfer
experience from
veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of
high-impact activities that may be included in the training.
1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This
is one of the biggest problem for WLM.
2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our
competition more attractive.
3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to
participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to
bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a
pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as
if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion
criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/T…
On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
wrote:
Hi all,
aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and the
offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input
on it
so far. I hope this is an indication that
everybody is very busy, rather
than uninterested!
I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I
tried
to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to
make this happen, we
need
to do more though! We really need your input,
active participation. If we
can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had
in
mind will most definitely not work out. Just
being fair and square: if we
don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the idea,
and let it be. Would be sad!
Looking forward to your input on
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Traini…
Lodewijk
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not
> having specifics yet :)
>
> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves
> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same
philosophy),
> it stroke me that there is so much being
learned in different
countries, but
> that we are not always effectively sharing
that among ourselves. Even
if we
> share, it doesn't seem that the best
practices make it actually to the
> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that
this
> could increase the outcomes (in many
different ways) and reduce the
costs
> (especially in volunteer organizing time).
>
> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale,
we
> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with
a bunch of people from
> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year.
> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective
network of
> people helping each other to organize
effective competitions - sharing
> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion
a
> major component in the success of the
competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in
2012
> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam).
>
> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an
> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful work
> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression
that
> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki
Loves Monuments, a better
> international coordination could have helped the competition.
>
> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be
> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers
> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best
> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can
be
> strengthened and the international
coordination can be given a push in
the
> beginning.
>
> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so
> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of organizers
> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget,
the
> pro's and con's and consider whether
this would be a wise investment of
our
> time and money. Don't worry just yet if
it is realistic to request the
money
> etc - that is a separate discussion.
>
> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's going
> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be
worth
it) and I
very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be
highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons.
Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts,
Lodewijk
PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future
competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team
again :) Just want to be realistic.
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