Hi Željko,

Thank you for your question. Interviews for the research are still ongoing, and we are also regarding the office hour as part of the research. Since Mesha's outreach opportunities depend largely on the availability of other people, and considering Nov/Dec/Jan were busy months for many of us (WLM coming to a close, annual reports to finish, holidays, and the pandemic) I think the research is well underway but could use more viewpoints on the various challenges organizers face.

Personally, I don't think we can expect all the points from the research to be addressed before WLM 2022, but they do help us look forward and think about what the competition might look like in the next 10 years. However, the interim report will help us to make plans for the WLM 2022 in the shorter term.
Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell


Op za 22 jan. 2022 om 12:55 schreef Željko Blaće <zblace@mi2.hr>:
Was there much research done? I fear that processing so slowly (too few paid hours?) and if presented so late will not be beneficial for 2022, with 2023 being too far on the other end?

On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 12:49 PM Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipedia@gmail.com> wrote:
"The first point of DEI research and the future of WLM will be <s>the main talking point</s> in the upcoming January office hour"
Sorry: not the *main talking point*, but one of the talking points of course.

Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell


Op za 22 jan. 2022 om 12:37 schreef Ciell Wikipedia <ciell.wikipedia@gmail.com>:
Hello Paulo and Mykolo,

Thank you for your suggestions.

@Paulo: We talked about tool support briefly yesterday in the bi-weekly meeting of the international team, and we are aware there are several tools that need fixes or updates. The international team could really use  some extra support from volunteer Wikimedians who would be willing to take up or mentor (parts of) these projects. I tried to summarize the different tasks in the team on the organizers 2022 page on Commons: please let us know if you are willing to help out.
For Listeria: since more and more national communities are working on processing the Wikipedia lists of monuments into Wikidata, it would be very interesting to hear of and brainstorm on fixes together. In the meantime the maintenance and development of this tool is done by MagnusManske, as you may know, and bug reports or feature requests for all Magnus' tools can at the moment best be reported in github, so please also report your experiences there. I recognize this may not be the most helpful answer for you yet, and do see how this is causing problems for the usefulness of Listeria's in WLM.

@Mykolo: These are also definitely relevant points to talk about. Mesha will be working on the DEI research for about another 4-5 months: we have several ideas on how to move forward from the interviews, and how to ensure the recommendations from the research can be integrated to the fullest into our competition. We have asked her to share midterm results with the international team before we need to start drafting the WLM 2022 grant request, and this is also a good moment to look back at the 2021 competition. Input from the national organizers would really be appreciated for both, yes! The first point of DEI research and the future of WLM will be the main talking point in the upcoming January office hour; an office hour to look back to WLM 2021 and forward to WLM 2022 will be scheduled when we have received more information on the new grant application process from the WMF. 

Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell


Op wo 19 jan. 2022 om 23:44 schreef Mykola Kozlenko <mycola-k@ukr.net>:
Hi Ciell,

I think it would be interesting to have a feedback on the DEI analysis - of course if there is any, if none it can wait some later office hours.

Otherwise I think we should have an update on where we stand on international results, and a reflection on what went well and what can be done better in 2022.

Thanks
Mykola (NickK)

19 січня 2022, 20:47:08, від "Ciell Wikipedia" <ciell.wikipedia@gmail.com>:

Hi everyone,

It’s time to pick up the WLM Office Hours again. During these office hours you can expect to talk with other WLM organizers about different aspects of organizing the WLM competition.

We’ll start this year off with a first block (in 2 time slots to allow optimal geographic coverage) on the research for DEI en are looking forward to discussing issues of accessibility and disparity of resources, changing local cultural contexts related to monuments/heritage, government or bureaucratic restrictions to participation, and other such issues that hinder inclusivity and diversity in WLM. 

Please join us on the weekend of 29 and 30 January for an exchange of experiences, after a brief introduction/presentation by Mesha (a researcher that supports the international team). Whether you have experiences to share, or are just curious about Wiki Loves Monuments and the research, please join us for the call.

When: Sat. 29 Jan 9:00 am (UTC) and Sun. 30 Jan 18.00 (UTC)
Where: Google Meet 

We would appreciate it if you could indicate your interest on this page on Commons: 12 hours before the start of the office hour we will share the link for the call on this page. 

On a final note: the international team will be planning more office hours again and we have some ideas about the topics that could be covered, but we of course would like to hear if you have ideas about this! Wikidata, organizing your first photowalk, or the jury process: what would you like to talk about? Let us know.

Best,
Ciell
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