Hi Jon,

thanks for that! Sounds like a good development after all. Probably you could provide some examples of monument databased that have already been included in wikidata? (I believe Maarten did the Rijksmonumenten, and a few more). Also, for several countries, the wikipedia lists were the first accessible for a wide audience. If worked out well, the result could be the largest monument database in the world as far as I know. 

Best,
Lodewijk

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 1:47 PM, John Andersson <john.andersson@wikimedia.se> wrote:

Hi everybody,


We are still talking with the fund Postkodlotteriets Kulturstiftelse about project financing. They have indicated that work with the WLM database might be a way forward!


Hence, we are now about to prepare an application that (if it goes through) would enable us to put in a considerable amount of staff time to help local teams with getting and processing the data needed for the contest, as well as moving the current data to Wikidata for a long term solution. Also, I would think that some statistical analysis of the data or other form of reporting also could be done as part of the project.


Is there any local teams that would benefit from this technical assistance for 2016? Ideally we should present a few concrete examples.


The fund is especially interested if we could help in countries that have more limited resources and/or where culture is at risk. This could be done even if your team wouldn't have capacity to organize WLM next year.


Please let us know your thoughts as soon as possible!


Best,


John
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From: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 12:04:53 +0200

Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for Volunteers - WLM International Team

Hi all,

Just a quick update: Sadly we didn't get the funding for staff support for the international part of WLM. 

However, the fund do want to support our work with preserving cultural heritage somehow (but photo contests are outside their scope) and we will have future meetings with them to see what we can do together. This means that in 2015 Sweden will have a national contest, but we will not be able to help out internationally with staff support.

One thing that I will be talking with them about is the gathering of official monument data, and that would benefit WLM 2016. The question is what we could help with from Sweden on top of the technical work on the database? Can we support the smaller national teams somehow? Please share your good ideas on the list so that I can give examples at the meeting and draft a project plan for them :-).

Best,

John
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From: john.andersson@wikimedia.se
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 11:57:39 +0100
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for Volunteers - WLM International Team

Great! Thank you Lodewijk. The application will have to be in Swedish and we will also include the Swedish national WLM contest. My idea is that we can specify the needs and the outcomes of the international part of the project together so that the international team gets everything needed. Each year the foundation I am thinking about give out around 11.5 million euros to cultural projects, and each project can get up to 500 000 euros - so we could, and should, include a lot of relevant things.

I have a bunch of other applications to finalize that have deadlines shortly, but my plan is to start working on this application in the middle of next week. 

Best,

John
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From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 16:37:36 +0100
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for Volunteers - WLM International Team

Hi John, 

sounds great, and I'd be happy to brainstorm with you. I guess most of the writing is something a Swedish native speaker will have to do though, but this kind of stuff I'd be happy to assist where possible. 

Best,
Lodewijk

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 3:39 PM, John Andersson <john.andersson@wikimedia.se> wrote:

Hi,


I would be happy to look into the possibility of finding external funding for the International contest (perhaps based on the PEG application from 2013?).


There are a few Swedish funds that I know of that might be interested in supporting the international part of WLM - after all it is pretty awesome. If you think that I should pursue this I would of course be grateful for any and all help with drafting the content. Even though these are Swedish foundations some of the staff costs might still be possible to be moved to WMNL or other chapters that have been involved in the international part previously (I think that would be very beneficial because of their expertise) - but I would have to look into if the funds have any rules preventing that. I am sure that it could be solved somehow.


The funds I have in mind have a pretty fast process - and we could probably have a preliminary answer from them within a couple of months or so. Please let me know if you would like me to get cracking at it.


Best,


John
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 10:09:03 +0100
From: romaine.wiki@gmail.com
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for Volunteers - WLM International Team


Hi Alex,

> Please also note that last year PEG funded 7 WLM grants (+1 to the international team). The earliest request was made in June and the last in mid-September. Next year, we will recommend that national requests come in by early July, and will be communicating this as well as other tips on national WLM grant requests, over the next couple of months.

Sorry, but that is not workable. We definitely should not recommend to submit requests in early July, that is for a big organisation with much activities and active partners way too late.

Also the 2014 situation was worse: it should be possible to have a last moment grant request (for unforeseen circumstances), but that is far from handy to recommend such for all national teams!

And I am sorry to say, but closing the grant requests for good requests is insane. The situation will be that instead of coming with a good and well defined plan, people have to rush and will come with less well set up project plans or are too late to be in time!

> We do believe that this is a positive campaign

It is a negative campaign. Not thought through well, and with problems. It is at such fine to have more attention to a strategic priority, but this works counter productive for other good projects.

Also this is a negative campaign, as good projects are not taken seriously this way.
I thought the grantmaking was intented to support the community (mission-allied people and organisations), apparently that basic idea has disappeared...

> All folks with grants currently in draft stage have been contacted

But all folks with grants in draft stage elsewhere, planning to submit in February or March, aren't aware!
Yes, we have multiple project plans to submit in February...

This is really disappointing.

Romaine





2014-12-30 20:33 GMT+01:00 Alex Wang <awang@wikimedia.org>:
Hi Lodewijk,

If the international team (whomever they may be) cannot submit the request before February 1st and need funds before April 30th, I am happy to talk about a solution. I am also happy to review a draft grant request at any time in order to make the process of review and discussion by the Grant Advisory Committee more efficient.

We do believe that this is a positive campaign, addressing a strategic priority, that demands more time and focus from the grants team. We honestly cannot provide this focus in the stream of our normal grantmaking workflow. All folks with grants currently in draft stage have been contacted, as well as grantees whose current annual grants are coming to an end.

Please also note that last year PEG funded 7 WLM grants (+1 to the international team). The earliest request was made in June and the last in mid-September. Next year, we will recommend that national requests come in by early July, and will be communicating this as well as other tips on national WLM grant requests, over the next couple of months.

Cheers,

Alex

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
Hi Alex,

it is indeed the case that the 2013 team started in May only. One of the lessons was however, that this was way too late and that it should ideally be started in December. 

I'm sorry to hear that the grant system is being used in this way, and that this will only be announced two weeks before the period starts. I would be much more in favor of a /positive/ campaign to support requests of a certain type rather than to a negative campaign like this, which discourages everything besides that type. 

In either way, perhaps we learn this in time to make an effort to submit the grant request before February 1, so that we stay ahead of this and the damage is limited to all the national requests that have to be made. 

Best,
Lodewijk

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Alex Wang <awang@wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hi All,

Yes, we are in the planning stages of an Inspire Grants campaign that we will be announcing more broadly the week of January 12th. Please stay tuned for the details.

In short, Inspire is a global campaign to proactively source and support new projects aimed at addressing a specific strategic topic. Our first campaign will focus on addressing the gender gap: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Inspire_Grants_%E2%80%93_Gender_gap_campaign.


In order to focus, we will take a short break from the regular funding routines in both Project and Event Grants (PEG) and Individual Engagement Grants (IEG). We are dedicating round 1 of IEG funding and 3 months of PEG funding to the campaign. From February 1-April 30, PEG will only accept proposals as part of the gender gap campaign, with the exception for urgent requests. And IEG's first round of the year will be devoted to this experiment.


I don't anticipate this having a large impact on 2015 WLM grant planning. The 2013 international team started on their proposal at the end of May, leaving plenty of time for discussion and approval. However, if you feel this will be a challenge, please let me know and I am happy to discuss.

Cheers,

Alex


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On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Ilario Valdelli <valdelli@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, exactly.

It's a plan, it's not a definitive plan.

It has been communicated to the committees as general plan to focus some period of the year to some specific areas in order to produce more impact.

Regards


On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
Hi Ilario,

I'm not sure that I understand what you're saying. Are you suggesting that for three months long, nobody can get a grant from the Wikimedia Foundation if it is not directly related to the gender gap? This would be very surprising to me, and inconsistent with communications that I am aware of... It would be quite disruptive of the process as well. 

Nonetheless I do think that any project like Wiki Loves Monuments that involves a general audience, is in part a solution to the bias-problems such as the gender gap. But it would be counterintuitive to position it as such. 

Lodewijk

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Ilario Valdelli <valdelli@gmail.com> wrote:
For your record, there is the plan to reserve the grants of the first quarter of 2015 for project for gender gap. It's an idea not official yet.

So I agree that the best is to draft the budget because the submission probably may be conditioned by this decision and delayed to the middle of 2015.

Best regards and happy new year (at least for those using the Gregorian calendar).

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
Hi Yan,

Actually, the grant for next year should already be drafted by now :) I don't want to hurry people too much, but I'm afraid it would be unwise to wait with finding the team for next year... 

Best,

Lodewijk

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Ynhockey <ynhockey@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we wait for this year's competition to end before agreeing on next year's team? There are actually still quite a few things to do, including regarding the grant.

—Yan (Ynhockey).

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Saqib Qayyum <saqib.qayyum@hotmail.com> wrote:
I can help too .. :P 


Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:17:10 +0530
From: karthikndr@wikimedia.in
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Call for Volunteers - WLM International Team


Dear all,

We shall need a good international team to have another successful version of Wiki Loves Monuments after 2014. The team should comprise of experience volunteers who have conducted WLM or any such event in their country. 

There are numerous tasks and first task will be to hunt and find our countries who shall be willing to organise Wiki Loves Monuments again. To brief, the International Team is more of coordinating with all participating countries and without proper coordination, there will be no international competition for WLM 2015. 

Been in the international team is also more of applying for grant, documenting, following up and keeping track of status of all participating countries. Time to be spent may vary according to the skill of team members; more the skills and people, lesser the burden; however you can assume 10 hours a week during the contest (just horrifying). 

Would you be interested to be part of international team for WLM 2015, please send me a brief introduction of yourself and also a note on how you would benefit the international team. Please send the same by 6th of Jan. 



Regards from Mumbai,
Karthik Nadar. 

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