Hi Jane,

I am happy that you think that it sounds interesting!

The idea is to have similar rules and structure as WLM, e.g. that the artworks should have a unique ID to be part of the contest. I think that we should not limit ourselves more right now until we know what type of data we can get our hands on in the different countries. I personally feel rather hesitant to create a specific definition for the contest that would differ from the official ones, that feel a lot like original research to me and also it could make it harder to use the data later on, as we then might have to sort out certain categories of artworks. That however mean that what exactly are considered public art then most likely will differ a bit between different countries, and perhaps between different regions. To get in contact with relevant parties that have the needed data is therefor a first step and if you are interested in contacting people/institutions in your country that would be very helpful!

Also, I think that events focusing on connecting the pictures to Wikipedia would be fantastic and perhaps one could organize them to take place either at the same time or during the summer. If you have any cool ideas that you would like to work on please let me know!

All the best,

John
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2012 13:01:26 +0200
From: jane023@gmail.com
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
CC: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA) needs your help

John

Great initiative! Thanks for the tip, and good point about May vs. September regarding WLM, but these can easily be linked together, meaning Wiki(p/m)edians can take pictures of statues and other public art whilst working from a list of monument numbers...

To be clear, are you going to keep your Public art idea like WLM's, in the sense that "only photos with a unique id taken during the competition month will be eligible for a prize"? WLM is basically just a Wikimedia Commons project, and the fruits of that project can be used by Wikipedia, but there is no Wikipedia part of the competition as it is today.

Right off the top of my head I can think of lots of other ways to track public art, such as historical artworks commissioned by a governing body that once were on Square X and were replaced by artwork Y for reason Z, etc. This kind of tracking would require various references and would need to be integrated somehow with Wikipedia, I think, as pictures alone don't tell the whole story, the way pictures of physical monuments taken for WLM do.

In other words, what is your precise, identifiable and verifiable definition of "public art", rather than "sculptures, mosaics, mural paintings, memorials and place specific installments in the public space"?

Jane

2012/7/2 John Andersson <johnandersson86@hotmail.com>

Hallo everybody,

We have just started working with the Wiki Loves Public Art (WLPA)[1] contest that will focus on getting pictures on sculptures, mosaics, mural paintings, memorials and place specific installments in the public space. If you are interested in public art, enjoy organizing events, think that it is cool and interesting to work with projects that increase cooperation between the Chapters, or would like to work towards GLAM in your country, well then this would be something for you! We are looking for all kinds of volunteers and especially for national coordinators that can help us get things going in the countries and coordinate the volunteer efforts!

As we don't want to intrude upon the fantastic Wiki Loves Monument contest we are thinking about holding WLPA during the month of May in 2013. However, May will hopefully give us enough time to work on this and provide good enough weather so that the pictures look nice and people think that it is fun to go out and find the art works.

We are of course aware of the tricky copyright legislations in different countries but thanks to the fact that this is organized together with Europeana (www.europeana.eu) we have the possibility to use Europeana's team of judicial experts in finding out answers on some of the questions. So if you have a question that is not answered on Commons:Freedom of Panorama[2] please write up your questions on relevant judicial matters on our list and we will forward it to Europeana.[3]

Both me and the project leader, Lennart Guldbrandsson, will be at Wikimania and we would love to met and talk to you about this in person!

I hope to hear from you soon!

All the best,

John

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[1] http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Europeana_Awareness/Wiki_Loves_Public_Art
[2] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panorama
[3] http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projekt:Europeana_Awareness/Wiki_Loves_Public_Art/Legal_unclarities

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