I participated in organizing some competitions "scaled" (or level organizated) ,much more modest but with  the same purpose: increase the interest and participation.
In these contests is often used the formula to select finalist works  by the "local" jury and, of course, the local winners. The local organization then sends all the finalists works (awarded or not) at "general" competition and the "general" jury will select the winners among all the "local" finalists. This presents advantages in terms of participants: If your work is finalist it colud be awared localy or general, or both, or none.
The photography is an art and therefore has a touch of subjectivity that is given by the people of the jury. Is normal in such competitions That win a work that has not been awarded locally.

Mafoso

Al 06/04/2011 10:50, En/na Béria Lima ha escrit:
And there are other way to see: If a image don't win the local competition, they could still be motivate to be the European winner. A 1st place can't be mad to not win twice, and a 2nd place would became really happy if he win ;)
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2011/4/6 Susana Morais <susana.morais@wikimedia.pt>
I think that case would not be so problematic, in my opinion (the 1st place is the "real" winner). But like you say, the criteria used can be different, and if we make that clear from the beginning, in the rules, etc., people will have to accept that there would be, in fact, 2 different competitions, with different results.

Susana


2011/4/6 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>
Would the third ending up higher than the second be a problem too, then? 

(to be clear: I wouldn't have a problem with either situation, since like Nuno says, there are many factors. Even the exact criteria used by the jury will differ on European level compared to for example the Portuguese jury).

Lodewijk

2011/4/6 Susana Morais <susana.morais@wikimedia.pt>
The 2nd of a country ending up higher than the 1st in the European Competition is in fact a problem. Maybe there could be 2 different groups. Maybe the european jury could decide between the 1st ones from each country (resulting in a overall winner - for each category), and they could also decide between the rest (2nd and 5th place in each category, for example).

Susana

2011/4/6 Raul Kern <raunator@gmail.com>
Hoi.
Is there a "Topics/Agenda" wiki page for the May workshop?


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2011/4/5 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>:
> In any case, I think this is a perfect topic to decide on in the May
> workshop, so lets keep that as a deadline, but discussions are of course
> welcome here.
> Best, Lodewijk
>

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