I should firstly point out that I think these are important additions to campaigns irrespective of whether we end up using them in WLM. The need for either was something I first noticed during WLPA but I can imagine various other campaigns which might use them.

Whilst I agree the form should be as simple as possible I don't believe a check box will be an issue and it is definitely less so then trying to enter the same information manually. Still if clutter is a concern then it could be added to the expanded area where lat-lon can be found today.

For me the prime reason for having WWI (or another subcompetition) as a parameter directly in the campaign is that it gives local teams the ability to set up specific pages/lists/parameters for these where the checkbox is essentially set via the url to the campaign without the uploader needing to worry.

/André

Hi all, thanks for your comments

I share Lodewijk's point of view. Let's keep a wide understanding, but for WW1. 

If you feel like We can make it clearer with the name of the category:  "WWI and monuments". 

Regarding the question of adding the checkbox or not to the uploadwizard campaign, I don't have a clear idea on that: that would help us to identify some pics and save us some time. That said, I'm quite sure that we will probably still need to add several pics to the category manually, so whatever feels better to the designer/developer.

Best, 

Ŕlex 


2013/8/16 Platonides <platonides@gmail.com>
On 15/08/13 18:33, Maarten Dammers wrote:
Hi André,

Op 15-8-2013 15:07, André Costa schreef:
In my view the easiest solution would be to add a tick box in the
upload campaign for whether the image is part of this sub-competition
or not. It would however also require that the placement of the
wikitext on the image page could be controlled so that this
template/category is not put in the description field.
Imho this goes against our philosophy[1]: We stripped the upload form to
contain as few options as possible, this would add more clutter.

Previous years we just went through the images and added the special
category. We found plenty of images.

Maarten

[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/Philosophy

It's good to provide a streamlined process with as few options as possible, but don't try to give less than we should!

- I think we should provide the users the option to participate into the Europeana award.
They are the ones in the best position to assert that their photo is indeed somehow related to the topic, and their lack of participation in the subcontest shouldn't depend on a noticing that it could participate (we would still remove and add when ovbious, as usual).

- The baseline participantes are using the UploadWizard. A new checkbox does add an option but is a one-line step.

- Requesting an addition on wikitext would be unfriendly.

- Another UI would add more complexity than what is added by that checkbox.


Thus, IMHO we should go the UW checkbox path.


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