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   1. Re: Feedback requested on design for WLM  tshirt (Saqib Q)
   2. Re: Feedback requested on design for WLM  tshirt (Saqib Q)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 09:58:21 +0500
From: Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com>
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
        <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Feedback requested on design for
        WLM     tshirt
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Lily, major Urdu language news outlets translated "Wiki Loves Monuments"
this way, for instance BBC Urdu, Dawn, Jang etc

1. http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan-42482148
2.
https://jang.com.pk/news/234690-staff-reporter-column-2016-12-20-todays-print
3. https://www.dawnnews.tv/news/1045021

Not a single news outlet translated the Wiki Loves Monuments non-literally.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Saqib,
>
> We noticed that there was some back-and-forth on the page for the
> translation to Urdu. I can read it and it seems the disagreement is about
> whether you literally say Wiki Loves Monuments and write what you hear in
> English in Urdu alphabet (which is what you're recommending), or you do
> actual translation of the words (which is what we used initially). it's
> hard for us to judge what is correct. :( We may have to eventually go with
> what's in Wikidata, but I'll leave it to Mohammad to make the call.
>
> Best,
> Lily
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lily, for some reason, the people at Urdu Wikipedia won't let me fix the
>> translation.
>>
>> So mentioning it here:
>>
>> وکی لوز مونومینٹس
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oh yes it is but wrong translation. I will fix it. will you update the
>>>> design then?
>>>>
>>>
>>> oh!
>>>
>>> Mohammad will do one last pass over the Wikidata item in 8 hours or so
>>> and will finalize the design. Please make sure you have it there before
>>> then! :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail
>>>> .com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Saqib,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:30 AM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Urdu language is missing. Pakistan participating in the WLM since
>>>>>> 2014..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't it over the big Wiki Loves Monuments, almost in the middle? If
>>>>> that's not Urdu, can you update the Wikidata item with the correct
>>>>> translation for Urdu?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Lily
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saqib,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Suyash Dwivedi <suyash.tps@gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hindi language is missing- विकि लव्स मॉन्यूमेंट्स
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Mohammad Hekmat <m.hekmat@gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The international team is designing a tshirt to thank WLM 2017
>>>>>>>> organizers and international winners. You can see the current design here:
>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WLM_Multilingual_Logo.pdf
>>>>>>>> In this design the WLM logo is made out of the "wiki loves
>>>>>>>> monuments" phrase in various languages, making it a simple yet an inclusive
>>>>>>>> and universal design.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are specifically looking for feedback on the accuracy of the
>>>>>>>> translations. If you spot an error (in translation or a typo) we would
>>>>>>>> appreciate if you could please let us know by Tuesday March 27, 6am UTC. We
>>>>>>>> are planning to distribute the tshirts at Wikimedia Conference in Berlin in
>>>>>>>> a month. As such there is some urgency is finalizing the design and also
>>>>>>>> leaving time for logistics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mohammad Hekmat
>>>>>>>> Member of WLM International Team
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
>>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
>>>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg]
>>>>>>> *Suyash Dwivedi*
>>>>>>> Executive member
>>>>>>> <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Executive_Committee_Members> | *Wikimedia
>>>>>>> India Chapter*
>>>>>>> +91 98260 15410 <+91%2098260%2015410> | +91 70003 72413
>>>>>>> <+91%2070003%2072413>  Suyash.dwivedi@wikimedia.in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> | *Skype*: suyash.india http://wiki.wikimedia.in/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:03:23 +0500
From: Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com>
To: Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition
        <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Feedback requested on design for
        WLM     tshirt
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The current translation does not really makes sense, it reads something
like "Wiki Beloved Memories". Try Google translation yourself.


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lily, major Urdu language news outlets translated "Wiki Loves Monuments"
> this way, for instance BBC Urdu, Dawn, Jang etc
>
> 1. http://www.bbc.com/urdu/pakistan-42482148
> 2. https://jang.com.pk/news/234690-staff-reporter-column-
> 2016-12-20-todays-print
> 3. https://www.dawnnews.tv/news/1045021
>
> Not a single news outlet translated the Wiki Loves Monuments non-literally.
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Saqib,
>>
>> We noticed that there was some back-and-forth on the page for the
>> translation to Urdu. I can read it and it seems the disagreement is about
>> whether you literally say Wiki Loves Monuments and write what you hear in
>> English in Urdu alphabet (which is what you're recommending), or you do
>> actual translation of the words (which is what we used initially). it's
>> hard for us to judge what is correct. :( We may have to eventually go with
>> what's in Wikidata, but I'll leave it to Mohammad to make the call.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lily
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lily, for some reason, the people at Urdu Wikipedia won't let me fix the
>>> translation.
>>>
>>> So mentioning it here:
>>>
>>> وکی لوز مونومینٹس
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:44 PM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail
>>> .com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh yes it is but wrong translation. I will fix it. will you update the
>>>>> design then?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> oh!
>>>>
>>>> Mohammad will do one last pass over the Wikidata item in 8 hours or so
>>>> and will finalize the design. Please make sure you have it there before
>>>> then! :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail
>>>>> .com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Saqib,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:30 AM, Saqib Q <saqib.wiki@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Urdu language is missing. Pakistan participating in the WLM since
>>>>>>> 2014..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't it over the big Wiki Loves Monuments, almost in the middle? If
>>>>>> that's not Urdu, can you update the Wikidata item with the correct
>>>>>> translation for Urdu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Lily
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saqib,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Suyash Dwivedi <
>>>>>>> suyash.tps@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hindi language is missing- विकि लव्स मॉन्यूमेंट्स
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 8:38 AM, Mohammad Hekmat <
>>>>>>>> m.hekmat@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The international team is designing a tshirt to thank WLM 2017
>>>>>>>>> organizers and international winners. You can see the current design here:
>>>>>>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WLM_Multilingual_Logo.pdf
>>>>>>>>> In this design the WLM logo is made out of the "wiki loves
>>>>>>>>> monuments" phrase in various languages, making it a simple yet an inclusive
>>>>>>>>> and universal design.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are specifically looking for feedback on the accuracy of the
>>>>>>>>> translations. If you spot an error (in translation or a typo) we would
>>>>>>>>> appreciate if you could please let us know by Tuesday March 27, 6am UTC. We
>>>>>>>>> are planning to distribute the tshirts at Wikimedia Conference in Berlin in
>>>>>>>>> a month. As such there is some urgency is finalizing the design and also
>>>>>>>>> leaving time for logistics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Mohammad Hekmat
>>>>>>>>> Member of WLM International Team
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
>>>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
>>>>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: File:Wikimedia India logo.svg]
>>>>>>>> *Suyash Dwivedi*
>>>>>>>> Executive member
>>>>>>>> <http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Executive_Committee_Members> | *Wikimedia
>>>>>>>> India Chapter*
>>>>>>>> +91 98260 15410 <+91%2098260%2015410> | +91 70003 72413
>>>>>>>> <+91%2070003%2072413>  Suyash.dwivedi@wikimedia.in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> | *Skype*: suyash.india http://wiki.wikimedia.in/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list
>>>>>>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
>>>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> User: LilyOfTheWest
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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