(oh, and ps: probably native countries like the US and GB work very
differently than non-native English countries. Here participate would
definitely resonate much better, and 'snap' would only be confusing. But
that is probably stating the obvious)
2013/9/11 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
I think there are two major factors in our image
count:
1) new participants, people who never edited before.
2) super uploaders, people with more than 100 images
The highest contribution to the number of images is 2) by a leap. This is
mostly people with a reservoir of images - primarily in Spain, Poland and
Germany.
The banner has primarily an influence on 1), which is also important. I
definitely wouldn't mind a change in the banner, but I would suggest to let
that coincide with the drop of Privacy Policy (which was poorly situated -
the original plan was to run it in August). In some other countries, there
are more banners competing even (like in NL, a conference banner with call
for speakers).
Another way than the wording, is the design.
I would suggest we continue this 'what is the best banner' discussion on a
talkpage somewhere, to keep it consistent. Romaine, what would be a good
location for that?
Lodewijk
2013/9/11 Michael Maggs <Michael(a)maggs.name>
Both
*"Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia"* and *"It's a snap, Wiki Loves
Monuments"*
*
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are the best I have heard so far, and they would work in the UK as well
as the US. Maybe have them both running at 50% ?
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Michael
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On 11 Sep 2013, at 17:41, Peter Ekman wrote:
I too have noticed a drop off in photos submitted in the last few days.
It's fairly important to determine what caused the drop off if we can. It
might be something totally outside of our control, e.g. the situation in
Syria, but might be something like a change in banner display, which we do
have some control over. Did the drop happen in most countries? We don't
have full control over all Wikimedia banners - we do have to share the
space with others, but perhaps they might be willing to delay some of their
displays if we ask nicely.
I do agree that changing the banner from time-to-time can help. I don't
agree that a banner of ""Participate in the world's largest
photo-contest and help Wikipedia," would help any. The imperative verb
"Participate" is very weak, and is not natural to American English
speakers. It suggests a high school home economics teacher telling us that
we have to bring cookies to the annual bake-off. Something more active is
definitely needed, something along the line (but not exactly) of a high
school football coach saying "Go out there and kick some butt!" That would
definitely get some attention as a banner, but not the exact type of
attention we want. A teaser ad might work however, e.g. "About your photos
on Wikipedia .... (smaller type) upload them to Wiki Loves Monuments"
"Snap" might be a verb we want to use. It gives an idea of the action
that we want people to take (snap a snapshot), unlike "participate." So
perhaps "Snap a historic site, Wiki Loves Monuments" It could wake people
up. Or maybe "Snap a snapshot for Wikipedia". As a noun "It's a snap,
Wiki
Loves Monuments"
I don't think these ideas are good enough yet for an actual banner, but I
think that folks should brain-storm this and come up with new ideas.
Straight informative banners can sound bureaucratic or just boring.
Different languages or dialects should be considered separately, as
translations are really tricky, e.g. "It's a snap" might mean something
entirely different in British English
Pete
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