Yeah, a good definition is important here :) We could also make both categories: "Disqualified images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2016" and "Not considered images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2016" (or if someone knows a better category name, just suggest it). The first should include images that were removed on formal grounds, the second images that were removed from consideration for other reasons. 

For the record: both would not be considered as 'part of the competition' for Guinness World Record purposes, if that were to become relevant again. For that, they actually need to compete for the prizes somehow. 

Lodewijk

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2016-09-26 19:13 GMT+02:00 <Beppo.S@gmx.at>:
In Austria last year we had a https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015_in_Austria_not_for_prejury The photographers themselves decided to put pictures there to relieve the prjury. Of course these photos did not reach the jury too. But that did not mean, that they would not be part of WLM 2015. The category should not be mixed up with disqualified images. I think that is what Lodewijk meant. 
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Beppo
 
Gesendet: Montag, 26. September 2016 um 18:20 Uhr
Von: Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail.com>
An: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" <wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org>
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Betreff: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] how to label photos that won't be part of the competition
Lodewijk, from a local organizer's perspective, this can make it easier for Iran, since we don't have to invent things on our own. This can also make communications with other local organizers in the following years easier. The international team can encourage the use of one global category for these purposes. I'm curious what other's think.
 
I'm adding the Montage and WLX folks for their feedback. From the jury tool's perspective, I see at least two options:
* The tools be able to exclude photos by category, the same way they can include photos by category.
* Hardcoding one global category that the tools will use by default to exclude photos submitted as part of the contest.
 
Leila
 
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
(and my definition of 'excluded' would then be 'disqualified or otherwise out-of-competition'. Images that have little chance of winning should be removed in a different way, so that the statistics are clean.)
 
Lodewijk
 
2016-09-26 17:49 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>:
Would it be helpful to create one category on an international level with excluded images (because of copyvio, or because the uploader is out-of-competition) so that the jury tools can directly draw upon that? You could put national out-of-competition categories immediately into that. 
 
Best,
Lodewijk
 
2016-09-26 17:42 GMT+02:00 Lily <lilyofthewest.wikimedia@gmail.com>:
Thank you all for the super fast responses. :) We will use a category to exclude them from the competition part, and/or will use the uploaders' usernames for doing that.
 
Leila
 
 
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 8:40 AM, attolippip <attolippip@gmail.com> wrote:
The pictures there are also not included in the portion that goes to the jury.
 
Best,
antanana
 
2016-09-26 18:31 GMT+03:00 Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com>:
 
 
2016-09-26 17:24 GMT+02:00 attolippip <attolippip@gmail.com>:
Hello,
 
We exclude such pictures (made by jury members, orgs and their relatives (if disclosed))
and they do not even get to the jury to evaluate.

Usually we just give the usernames we want to exclude to Ilya, who removes the images smaller than 2Mpx and this kind of images at the preliminary stage.
 
Best regards,
antanana
Wiki Loves Monuments Ukraine
 
In France, we extensively use categories like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Out_of_competition_images_from_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_France (for jury membres, chapter staffs, relatives, etc.) or https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Obviously_ineligible_submissions_for_Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2016_in_France (no problem with the uploader but the photo represent an unidentified monument or an identified but not protected monument).
 
Cdlt, ~nicolas
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