The user in question (User:Sporti) found that the criteria for speedy deletion on Commons may offer a solution here:

<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#F8>
"The generally accepted rule is to delete the newer duplicate, but that may not always be the case, such as when comparing between a user uploaded file, and a bot uploaded file.

Do you think that this exception could be reconstituted with the international competition rules? If not, eligibility in the national competition may be a good compromise; although, I see now that the pictures in question have already been deleted, and it will require some effort to have them restored.

Jernej

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 7:24 AM effe iets anders <effeietsanders@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jernej,

Based on what you describe, this is a complex issue indeed, and an unfortunate intersection of circumstances. I don't think there is a perfect solution. 

I don't see a good reasoning to accept the new image unless somehow you can argue that the newer version is better because of either metadata or resolution. You could also check if they have a slightly different angle/version that they maybe did not yet upload to Flickr. These are all imperfect solutions though. 

You could discuss among yourselves whether to accept these submissions anyway in the national competition; you have some leeway there - but I should warn you that most likely these images would not be accepted as 'new' in the international competition. The international jury has to stick to their rules, I'm afraid, and I think the definition is pretty clear here, however unfortunate this is for the photographer. 

I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution. 

Lodewijk

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 8:25 AM Jernej Polajnar <jpolajnar.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all,

we came across an interesting issue. Apparently, the Slovene campain
attracted an author whose freely licensed pictures were transferred from
Flickr almost a year ago by a long-time user. Naturally, I'd like to
keep the new pictures which were uploaded in good faith, so that the
author wouldn't be offended by deletions, and that the campaign results
would be better. You think that Commons admins could be persuaded to
delete the older instances instead?

Here's one example:
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Spodnje_Gorenjce_hamlet_in_Semi%C4%8D_(43519825290).jpg>
(old) and
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Podru%C5%BEni%C4%8Dna_cerkev_Sv._Jo%C5%BEef.jpg>
(new). There's a couple more.

What do you think can be done?

Thanks,

Jernej


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