Sorry,
consider that in Switzerland there is not a "normal" situation. Go in detail and consider the organizational problem.

At the moment the problem is not to have a contest with a minimal list (this is not a big deal), but to have a contest with 4 different lists not synchronized.

It means that what see a French participant is not what see a German participant. In addition the integration with tools is working bad!

So "Houston, we have a problem".

I am not saying "in my opinion I think that it would be better to do that..." but I am saying that we have 2 weeks and there are some problems in the lists and the organization of the contest in Switzerland risks to be a *big nightmare*.

So what I am expecting from the persons answering to my problem is not an "in my opinion", but a solution to these problems!

The list of monuments is not split in 4 languages but the same list is translated in 4 languages and the content of any list is different from another (I repeat, the content of any list is different from another). The same translations are not correct because they use the address as name of the monuments.

So, please, don't focus the problem on the KGS number, putting the KGS number doesn't solve the other problems.

I agree that it would be better that the French speaker have in the list: "Chapelle de Saint Léonard" and not the name in German... it would be really great!

But the problem is that he cannot see the monument or that he see another think that is not the monument (may be the address translated as name of the monument).

How fix the problem? You are suggesting to correct all lists in the 4 languages... in 4 weeks and to expect that anyone will do it also afterwards.

I would say to consider a MASTER list and to rollout it in the 4 languages because it would be more efficient to manage.

Today English list <> German list <> French list <> Italian list.

Now the problem is not to have a Wiki Loves Monuments with a minimal list, but to have a WLM "not manageable".

-----> In the point of view of the organization this is a big nightmare. <--------


On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Maarten Dammers <maarten@mdammers.nl> wrote:

Hi Ilario,

Op 16-8-2012 16:54, Ilario Valdelli schreef:

Yes, you used the Swiss official list and you did it correctly. But it has been generated some years ago and there are some municipalities not existing anymore and the ISOS villages not completed (missed kgs number).

I suggested some time ago to get in touch with the agency to see if we would be able to get more recent data. Did someone follow up on that? Would be the best way to go. For the French and German lists http://toolserver.org/~multichill/temp/queries/erfgoed/KGS_nr_to_add_fr.txt and http://toolserver.org/~multichill/temp/queries/erfgoed/KGS_nr_to_add_de.txt should be integrated. Maybe you can first work on that?

As for adding an additional column. I don't think that's a good idea, you'll have to be practical. If it's not a given name you probably want to translate it. We now have "St. Leonhard Chapel" (en) "Kapelle St. Leonhard" (de) and "Chapelle de Saint Léonard" (fr). That's exactly what I would expect as a reader.

Maarten