The three activities are now moved to the main page.

On 5 December 2014 at 14:13, KaewWiki <KaewWiki@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have posted it in talk page and emailed to the group for discussion.
> If there is no objection or additional discussion in the next 7 days,
> I'll copy it from talk page to the main page itself.
>
> On 5 December 2014 at 14:09, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>> Can you please include suggested topics in the page as well?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:22 AM, KaewWiki <KaewWiki@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I understand that the training is designed to transfer experience from
>>> veteran volunteers to newcomers. However, we also have a number of
>>> high-impact activities that may be included in the training.
>>>
>>> 1. How to meet the deadlines/Consequences if deadline is not met This
>>> is one of the biggest problem for WLM.
>>> 2. More prizes and more professional management This would make our
>>> competition more attractive.
>>> 3. Pilot WLM in Japan and Australia This two countries had tried to
>>> participate but gave up in the middle of the process. We should try to
>>> bring them back or let international volunteers help organize it as a
>>> pilot activity. Alternatively, put the rest of the world together as
>>> if it is one national and find a appropriate eligibility inclusion
>>> criteria e.g. photos can be used on a Wikipedia article.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training#High_impact_activities
>>>
>>> On 30 November 2014 at 22:16, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > aside from the two or three notes made on the page and this list, and
>>> > the
>>> > offers to join the meeting - unfortunately there was very little input
>>> > on it
>>> > so far. I hope this is an indication that everybody is very busy, rather
>>> > than uninterested!
>>> >
>>> > I had some private discussions with folks, and based on that input, I
>>> > tried
>>> > to push the proposal a bit further. If we want to make this happen, we
>>> > need
>>> > to do more though! We really need your input, active participation. If
>>> > we
>>> > can't even manage to make this proposal work, the active training I had
>>> > in
>>> > mind will most definitely not work out. Just being fair and square: if
>>> > we
>>> > don't get more participation soon, I will probably have to kill the
>>> > idea,
>>> > and let it be. Would be sad!
>>> >
>>> > Looking forward to your input on
>>> >
>>> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2015/Training
>>> >
>>> > Lodewijk
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk@effeietsanders.org>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> This is a quite early stage idea, so please don't shout me down for not
>>> >> having specifics yet :)
>>> >>
>>> >> Looking back at the past few years of Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves
>>> >> Earth and now also Wiki Loves Africa (all built upon the same
>>> >> philosophy),
>>> >> it stroke me that there is so much being learned in different
>>> >> countries, but
>>> >> that we are not always effectively sharing that among ourselves. Even
>>> >> if we
>>> >> share, it doesn't seem that the best practices make it actually to the
>>> >> implementation - I think there's room for improvement here, and that
>>> >> this
>>> >> could increase the outcomes (in many different ways) and reduce the
>>> >> costs
>>> >> (especially in volunteer organizing time).
>>> >>
>>> >> In the first year that we organized the competition on a global scale,
>>> >> we
>>> >> had a very effective meeting (May 2011) with a bunch of people from
>>> >> countries that indicated they wanted to organize WLM later that year.
>>> >> Although much was to be improved, it helped to build an effective
>>> >> network of
>>> >> people helping each other to organize effective competitions - sharing
>>> >> skills, tools and inspiration. The discussions there were in my opinion
>>> >> a
>>> >> major component in the success of the competitions in 2011 and 2012 (in
>>> >> 2012
>>> >> we also had a shorter meeting in Amsterdam).
>>> >>
>>> >> At the same time we have seen the many challenges to get together an
>>> >> effective international team. While I want to applaud the wonderful
>>> >> work
>>> >> done by volunteers nationally and internationally, I had the impression
>>> >> that
>>> >> both at Wiki Loves Earth and later at Wiki Loves Monuments, a better
>>> >> international coordination could have helped the competition.
>>> >>
>>> >> I would like you to ponder a bit with me, and think whether it would be
>>> >> useful to organize again a training meeting for a variety of organizers
>>> >> around the world, where skills and experiences can be transferred, best
>>> >> practices can be shared, the network of organizers internationally can
>>> >> be
>>> >> strengthened and the international coordination can be given a push in
>>> >> the
>>> >> beginning.
>>> >>
>>> >> First of all, please think whether this would be a good idea, and if so
>>> >> what should be the goals, realistic outcomes and what kind of
>>> >> organizers
>>> >> should be joining definitely. After that, we can draft up the budget,
>>> >> the
>>> >> pro's and con's and consider whether this would be a wise investment of
>>> >> our
>>> >> time and money. Don't worry just yet if it is realistic to request the
>>> >> money
>>> >> etc - that is a separate discussion.
>>> >>
>>> >> My initial attitude is positive yet somewhat critical (I know it's
>>> >> going
>>> >> to be expensive, but I think if there is enough support, it could be
>>> >> worth
>>> >> it) and I very much look forward to your thoughts. Your input would be
>>> >> highly valued on this page on Wikimedia Commons.
>>> >>
>>> >> Looking forward to your very valuable thoughts,
>>> >>
>>> >> Lodewijk
>>> >>
>>> >> PS: I am very happy to help organize such a training to help future
>>> >> competitions, but please don't think I will join the international team
>>> >> again :) Just want to be realistic.
>>> >
>>> >
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