Lodewijk. In Spain there are some monuments without ID. On Wikipedia lists volunteers put a n/d (not available = no disponible) or left it empty, but the pictures of these monuments were easily recognizable with the name of the picture.

The pictures that we recognized as pictures of monuments not elegible or simply that showed a thing that was not a monument we removed their template of WLM and put them in a special category.

Santi (Millars)

From: lodewijk@effeietsanders.org
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:50:13 +0100
To: wikilovesmonuments@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Definitions of participating photos

Hi all,

just like last year, I am working on applying for recognition of Wiki Loves Monuments as the World Largest Photography Competition. We should be easily able to meet this record, but the evidence is always a bit tricky to generate. Just like last year, I'd like to be able to send them a full list of all participating images. 

However, for other purposes we might need different definitions. I'd like to suggest a few different definitions here. 

== Retention statistics ==
For running retention statistics etc, I'd like to use wide definitions of participating people and images: If the uploader *thought* he was validly submitting, that is good enough. After all, here it is the intention that counts. So this list should ideally include every image that ever contained the Wiki Loves Monuments template. No matter if the image was deleted, disqualified or if the country didn't submit finalists.

* No matter which country
* No matter the license / deleted or not
* No matter the monument template
* But within the time frame that the contest was ongoing (to have 'clear' stats for a full month of contest)

== Guinness ==
This will be the strictest definition because we cannot afford a single mistake (that would make the process much more painful and long) and we have easily beaten the record anyway so we can afford this. 

For this purpose, we should generate a clean list of images that definitely fulfill the criteria. This means among others that a submission is for this definition only considered valid if it really made a chance to win the international prize (similar to last year). That means for example unfortunately that images from Belgium & Luxembourg & South Tyrol cannot participate for this definition. (Belgium & Luxembourg didn't submit finalists, so strictly speaking those images never made any chance to win the international competition. For Italy (including South Tyrol) there was a bit more complicated rule due to local legislation that there had to be a permission from the soprintendenza (if you want details, please ask the local organizers!) etc. 

* Participating in one of the 33 countries that submitted nominees for the finale.
* License OK
* Not deleted
* Monument template with existing monument ID in the database has to be present (should there be exception countries to this?) In the case of Italy, the monument has to be on the 'cleared list' (can someone provide a complete cleared list as it was valid for the competition 2012?)
* Uploaded within the time frame for that country. Exception is mass uploads from mobile platform and Flickr. I believe Platonides has a whitelist for these bot uploaders? 

Am I missing any other criteria that could invalidate according to such a strict definition? I'm skipping the 'activated email address' because in practice we have reminded people of activating that if relevant on several occasions. 

I'd like to get started with this soon, so any quick feedback would be welcome. 

Kind regards,


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