In a way, it is great that so many people are working
with dedication at a
jury tool!
Could you please update
and add your name if you run (or plan to run) a working jury tool this
year? How can people use it?
Thanks!
Lodewijk
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Ilario Valdelli <valdelli(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
A comment that may be useful.
I think that everyone has a need and a jury tool can fit some needs more
than another... so the jury tool may be more than one.
The approaches are two:
a) someone select the "official jury tool" but the community can be a lot
unstaisfied
b) the jury tool is something personal like a tool developed in
Toolserver and he/she promotes his/her own tool and the community has
several options
Personally I like the option b because it's really hard that a tool can
fit the needs of all countries.
The IEG may support one or two Jury tools, what is important is to
clarify why the IEG must finance them.
So, instead of killing the jury tool of the competitor, using the vision
to have only one but poorly developed cause the long fight, I suggest to
look for financial support, to propose several tools and to have the
community choosing the most appropriated.
This is how the information technology should work: the user is the main
objective of the information technology, to be selected by the users
select, this is the best result.
regards
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Ynhockey <ynhockey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't really want to make people hate me
here, and mean absolutely no
offense to you personally, but for now I don't see the need for this grant
at all. Here are the reasons:
1) The tool works, but even if it didn't, we have the older tool which I
developed (aside from bugs, most of which have been fixed, I received no
complaints about it, and it was used successfully by national teams as well
as the international team). At the same time, Ilya just said he was
developing his own tool.
2) Even if we needed three tools, the other two are being developed for
free by volunteers. Our movement has a thing against paying someone for
something that others are willingly doing for free/
3) You seem to be a great developer, and we have a bunch of tools that
do need to be written / maintained! If you could delve into those, I would
definitely support your grant. For instance, a simple statistical tool for
how much each monument was photographed, etc. Platonides, Emilio and others
developed such tools, but they are not always maintained, and these
developers are not currently part of the international team (if you guys
are reading this, we want you back :) ).
—Yan (User:Ynhockey).
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Ilya Korniyko <intracer(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi, I'm the developer (putting it clear) of
another jury tool
(surprize!) and made some critical comments
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IEG/Modernize_the_Wiki_Loves_Mo…
Regards,
Ilya
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 4:50 AM, David Narvaez <
david.narvaez(a)computer.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> (CCing some jury tool users outside of the WLM realm)
>
> I am drafting an IEG to get funding to work on the jury tool in the
> next couple of months:
>
>
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Modernize_the_Wiki_Loves_Monumen…
>
> I would appreciate if past/present/future users of the tool could
> review the grant and give some feedback and/or endorse it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> David E. Narvaez
>
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