Hi y'all,
Yes, as you say if a depict a *place* you may could say so, but not an
*area*, an area is a concept too wide (both theoretically and practically)
to be depicted (ant it's not really useful as the place should connected to
the area on the Wikidata side).
For your example, a photo can maybe depict Uluru (or at least part of it)
but it can't depict the whole Uluṟu-Kata Tjuṯa National Park.
Plus, SDC is just at the begginings, so it sounds like a good advice to
recommend to participants to do what we know well for now (espacially as
most participants will never even be aware there or what is depict
statements).
That said, meanwhile and internally, we can still think together to the
best way to store data on SDC (and not just P180) about protected area and
come up with recommendation for next year.
Cheers,
~nicolas
Le dim. 28 avr. 2019 à 16:17, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)wikimedia.org.au> a
écrit :
If an image depicts a place that is a shot of the
protected area which is
readily identifiable as that place then it should say so... whether its
Uluru or Old Faithful people will say so, they're not going to say it
depicts a rock or a geyser. I understand that a plant or animal image it
will say it depicts those not the location.
We want as much information as people can provide, if we get technical on
how that is provided people wont. We spend too much energy trying to make
people do everything perfectly according to technical requires it just
drives people away, if the machines can handle it then fix the machines.
On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 21:46, Leonhard Lenz <mail(a)leolenz.de> wrote:
Hello,
as part of the structure data the depicts statements(
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Depicts) got released this
week. They are not in the UploadWizad yet so this is not relevant for the
Upload-Campaign.
But I would like to make clear that (after the upload finished) the
protected area a photo was taken should not be shown with the depicts
statement. A protected area is a theoretical entity and can not be a
depict(of a photography). If there is an item for the real physical object
this can be added of course.
I the future there will be the "located in protected area(P3018)"(
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P3018) statement for this.
So I would recommend to answer with this if there are questions of
participants or maybe write this in the FAQ or other information about your
local contest.
If you think it would be good to have the protected area information in
the depicts statements for now and want to correct this after the P3018
statement got released, do this, but I think it would be better to add this
Information based on the categories then.
Feel free to say if you disagree.
Greetings
Leo (GPSLeo)
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