A forward mail needing a bit of attention from all of you.
This is regarding http://dmoz.org/World/Kannada/
Chengappa is a 'catall' editor at ODP - meaning he has edit
previleges to the top level category on /World/Kannada on dmoz. He
mentions that his familiarity of the language is limited, and hence
requested for some help with the kannada words that form the names of
the primary categories of http://dmoz.org/World/Kannada
prominantly insists on being "convinced" for the ones I suggested.
There are two issues:
1) Naming - the editor has been informed that "aate" is for games,
"vyapaare" is for business, "praante" for region.
2) Unicode or just English script - wether the category name should be
in kannada unicode or English script (in itrans style).
Please send out your opinions and convincing notes.
I'm forwarding this mail to the kannada wikipedia list. The
volunteers here volunteer in editing kannada wikipedia (which is an
open content encyclopedia) in their free time. They may help in
convincing you that its ಆಟ (aata) and not ಆಟೆ (aate), ವ್ಯಾಪಾರ
(vyaapaara) and not ವ್ಯಾಪಾರೆ (vyaapaare). If someone has told the
former is true, I'm afraid you've been highly misinformed.
also, its "praanta" not praante. But vishwa sound good 'cos pranta
Personally I feel its fair enough to use unicode as some or the other
day that needs to be done.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: I. M. Chengappa <imc(a)chengappa.demon.co.uk>
Date: Apr 16, 2005 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: ODP Editor Feedback
To: Hari Prasad Nadig <hpnadig(a)gmail.com>
Hi. Regarding the subcats, I'll make some of the changes shortly, but
perhaps not all, because of recent machine problems, I have to copy all
the stuff between machines to work with Kannada fonts. I've some
questions. I'm going to write all these in a simplified Itrans because
of the fonts problem.
aaTe to aaTagaLu - will do, but see below
aaroogya is ok
kompyuTar has already been changed just before you were accepted. That's
the reason for the strange category that appears first in your
request/accept list. Please do not put comments such ' the name of the
category is erroneous' into the category description; this is part of
the public directory. You should raise these in the forums or by email.
kale is ok?
kriiDe is ok (but consider my comments on Recreation, below)
praante to vishwa . See question below.
vignyaana is ok
vyaapaare to vyaapaare - will do
(reference) to ullekhagaLu
samaaja is ok.
suddi is ok.
The reason for aaTe and vyaapaare is that I was told by one person that
all these forms should end in 'e' in this context, rather than 'a'. She
also said the same for samaaja , et.c. though I never changed that.
Presumably she was wrong?
praante is supposed to be Regional. You've provided an alternative
I assume you intend vishwa to be World, yes? But there will be no World
cat, except in the root of Dmoz = English Dmoz, containing all languages
other than English. It's a bad choice of heading in English, would have
made more sense as 'Languages'.
Shopping and Recreation. Consider if these are needed at the top level?
They are present at the top level in English DMOZ only because of its
history and derivation from the old usenet hierarchy. Ideally Shopping
would be a subcat of Business, and Recreation would be combined with
Sports and Games (the distinction between these latter three is quite
artificial in English). Many languages do not have such top level cats
because they confuse the overall ontology (as they do in English).
Kids and Teens - no, not for World/Kannada. The K&T directory is a
separate directory, with its own rules and management system, and it
could have a Kannada subcat there. See
. The alternative which you
probably want here is a Society/Children equivalent. However, if there
were a K&T/International/Kannada cat, that could be @linked into
World/Kannada. See for instance, World/Deutsch which has such a link
called Kinder und Teens.
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