--Hi All,
I would like to take the opposing viewpoint. That is, the purpose of our peer review process is to ensure that the articles are indeed a reliable source of information. If the articles we publish are not reliable, they why are we publishing them at all?
Best,Ed
---Edmund F. PalermoAssistant Professor
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-------- Original message --------From: Ian Alexander <iany@scenarioplus.org.uk>Date: 2018-06-18 12:50 PM (GMT-05:00)To: Mikael Häggström <<editor.in.chief@wikijmed.org> Cc: "WikiJournal (currently at Wikiversity)" <wikijournal-en@lists.wikimedia.org >, wjmboard <wjmboard@googlegroups.com>, WJH board <wjhboard@googlegroups.com>, WJS board <wjsboard@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: [WikiJournal-en] WikiJournal as a reference in Wikipedia
Mikael, colleagues--
The discussion seems clearly against accepting WJ as a 'reliable source'
at the moment. It is unclear to me whether joining the discussion to argue
about reviewers' anonymity and the academic status of the board would
improve matters.
I have 3 observations:
1) We may hope that in a few years' time, WJ has enough reputation that
Wikipedia will be willing to treat it as a reliable journal.
2) We are free to cut-and-paste to Wikipedia any WJ material which is
sufficiently well cited to reliable sources, which would include
peer-reviewed papers already published elsewhere by WJ authors. I note
that mathematics articles seem to require fewer citations both on
Wikipedia and in WJScience.
3) We could, I think, use material on WJ that isn't covered by citations
in the same way as material on a known scientist's blog: Wikipedia allows
'blog' postings to be cited provided it can be shown that the person
posting it is a recognised authority.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_ reliable_sources#User- generated_content
"Self-published material may sometimes be acceptable when its author is an
established expert whose work in the relevant field has been published by
reliable third-party publications.") Mikael might or might not wish to try
to confirm that on the discussion group.
Ian
> Hi all,
>
> WikiJournal content can be used in Wikipedia as per
Editorial_guidelines#Wikipedia_inclusion
> <https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/ >,Editorial_guidelines# Wikipedia_inclusion
> such as reviews based on other reliable sources.
>
> There is currently an online discussion whether content from WikiJournal of
> Science can be a reliable source in Wikipedia, which would allow original
> research from WikiJournal to be added to Wikipedia as well. I'd appreciate
> additional input to this:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/ Noticeboard#Reliability_of_ WikiJournal_of_Science
>
> If the consensus is to deny this usage in Wikipedia, we could either settle
> for adding only content such as material from reviews, as well as images.
> Alternatively, we could make a better case by not allowing peer reviewers
> to process articles anonymously, and thereby base reliability on their
> credentials, in addition to the judgement of the boards. But first we'll
> see how this discussion goes.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mikael
>
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