On 2/6/06, Ben Emmel <bratsche1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/6/06, Philip Welch
I've proposed a strict policy against wheel warring at
[[Wikipedia:Proposed wheel warring policy]]:
1. Any given use of administrative powers cannot be reverted or
reversed by another admin unless the issue is brought to adequate
1. a. Blocks may be extended without discussion, but they cannot be
shortened or lifted.
1. b. 1RR is strictly enforced on protected pages.
2. Any administrator who reverses another administrator's use of
admin powers without any discussion shall be desysopped immediately
without further review.
3. Once discussion is opened, a final decision cannot be made until
either the parties involved have reached Wikipedia:Consensus or a
specific intervening decision is made by the Wikipedia:Arbitration
Committee, User:Jimbo Wales, or the Wikimedia Foundation Board of
Directors. (This means that mere interpretation or extrapolation of
something Jimbo said previously does not warrant admin reversion.)
Any administrator who reverts another admin's use of administrative
powers before this has happened shall be desysopped immediately
without further review.
4. Administrators desysopped under this policy must wait three months
before starting the process to regain admin status.
Philip L. Welch
The only objection I have to this is that sometimes, an admin makes a
mistake (say, for example, a 3RR block when in reality, only three
and a legitimate edit was made). I've had
editors contact me wanting to
contribute to Wikipedia, but find they can't because of a wrong
these cases, I usually go ahead and unblock them,
and then leave a nice
message on the blocking admin's talk page. Any other delay due to
communication between admins I think is unfair to the blocked editors.
This is an international project, and we all can't expect to be online
the same time, what with time zones, sleeping,
eating, school, work and
such. I don't think I'll be able to say to that blocked editor "Sorry, I
can't unblock you for fear of losing sysop status for at least three
You'll have to wait while Admin XYZ, who is
currently sleeping in
Asia/America/Europe to check his email/talk page and unblock you."
But otherwise, a strict wheel-warring policy is needed. Admins aren't
the law. Our disciplinary procedures should at
least attempt to show
We are now at the age where adminship is truly a "big deal".
It really doesn't have to be.
Yes, it does. There are far too many people coming to this site, we have
far too much visibility, to take a lassiez faire attitude towards keeping
the site operational.
I'm not stupid, just selectively ignorant.