-----Original Message----- From: Carl Beckhorn [mailto:cbeckhorn@fastmail.fm] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 06:15 AM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 05:44:51AM +0100, David Gerard wrote:
Neutrality, no original research and verifiability are not trumpable by consensus, or even WP:CONSENSUS.
You're stretching here. WP:V and WP:NOR are en.wikipedia policies, not foundation principles, and could certainly be overridden or overthrown by sufficient consensus. They were established by consensus and derive their authority from consensus anyway. I believe it is the case that en.wp is rare amoung projects in having a verifiability policy at all.
One foundation issue that hasn't been mentioned in this discussion is the "wiki process" as a central method of deciding content.
- Carl
I think you are the one that's stretching. Verifiability and No original research are fundamental policies and enforced as such.
Fred
On Fri, May 25, 2007 at 01:11:35PM +0000, Fred Bauder wrote:
Verifiability and No original research are fundamental policies and enforced as such.
Of course they are policies. I only said they are not foundation issues and therefore must be the other sort of policy: the type that is actionable only because there is consensus to follow it.
I am more intersted in the interplay between * your (novel) interpretation of the BLP policy * the requirement for "wiki process", which _is_ a foundation issue.
It's clear that they fit together nicely in this case, but not in the way you claim.
- Carl