Fred Bauder wrote:
I think we need to adopt standards of what is an acceptable source which is in accord with the nature of the subject. In this case, it is not going to be a book published by the Oxford University Press, blogs may have to serve, as well as comixs websites. The alternative is to drastically trim our popular culture coverage, which is one of the bright spots of Wikipedia, if sometimes considered eccentric and unscholarly.
Yes. Hard policy for this sort of thing would produce ridiculous results; we can't formulate more than guidelines, to be applied according to editorial judgement. If an editor has that judgement, they can reasonably judge if a given source is rubbish or not; if they don't, no amount of guidelines can give it to them. You can't Taylorise clue.
Are John Lee's featured articles on Beatles songs entirely written using peer-reviewed academic journals as sources? Of course not.
(And in my experience as what sociologists use as a primary source [music journalism], peer-reviewed academia on pop music is an incredibly low-quality source of information or indeed clue.)
- d.
"David Gerard" wrote
(And in my experience as what sociologists use as a primary source [music journalism], peer-reviewed academia on pop music is an incredibly low-quality source of information or indeed clue.)
That rings true. I don't particularly want to wade through yards of well-footnoted stuff on Jimi Hendrix or Captain Beefheart, which is all drivel and wrong and written by someone who couldn't hum a twelve-bar to save their life.
You could look at it this way, though. If WP manages to evolve a credible, principles model of how to document and categorise and calibrate popular culture, and exhibitis it in action on its (certainly wide) range of included topics, then that could be a huge achievement in itself. One does have to bear in mind the basic principles: Sturgeon's Law on 90% of everything; Simon Frith on popular culture being defined by anyone being allowed their taste in the matter; objections to canon-formation; original research being the inevitable condition of the author; ephemerality of much of the interest.
Charles