http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647
"Robots could soon have an equivalent of the internet and Wikipedia."
Do you think they will let humans edit their Wikipedia?
Carcharoth
Just as we have no way of knowing which of our editors are AIs who have passed the Turing test, I doubt if they will be able to tell which of their editors are humans who can pass a reverse Turing test.
Incidentally one of my friends who is in that line of work reckoned that there probably isn't yet an AI that could pass the Turing test sufficiently well to get through RFA. But I reckon there is an even chance that we will need a policy such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/AI_accounts before the end of Wikipedia's second decade.
Regards
Jonathan Cardy
On 9 February 2011 14:45, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647
"Robots could soon have an equivalent of the internet and Wikipedia."
Do you think they will let humans edit their Wikipedia?
Carcharoth
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:47 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/AI_accounts
"Asking AI candidates at RFA if their operator will switch them off if they pass is considered by some to be incivil or tactless."
LOL! :-)
Carcharoth
While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, "Wikipository-- the information repository that any robot can contribute to"--
Intelligent robots are programmed to be modular in a sense that they can receive new sets of instructions and "learn" to perform them. If robots had a centralized global information repository, just think of the possibilities of artificial intelligence! If such a repository could be established and successfully implemented, it would no doubt become the most powerful source of artificial intelligence in the world.
And regarding robots "letting" humans edit their 'pedia...unless we program them to restrict our contributions, they can't. And even then, WSC is correct-- what's to stop us from looking like a bot?
Bob
On 2/9/2011 9:47 AM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Just as we have no way of knowing which of our editors are AIs who have passed the Turing test, I doubt if they will be able to tell which of their editors are humans who can pass a reverse Turing test.
Incidentally one of my friends who is in that line of work reckoned that there probably isn't yet an AI that could pass the Turing test sufficiently well to get through RFA. But I reckon there is an even chance that we will need a policy such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/AI_accounts before the end of Wikipedia's second decade.
Regards
Jonathan Cardy
On 9 February 2011 14:45, Carcharothcarcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647
"Robots could soon have an equivalent of the internet and Wikipedia."
Do you think they will let humans edit their Wikipedia?
Carcharoth
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On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, "Wikipository-- the information repository that any robot can contribute to"--
Would they edit war, I wonder?
Intelligent robots are programmed to be modular in a sense that they can receive new sets of instructions and "learn" to perform them. If robots had a centralized global information repository, just think of the possibilities of artificial intelligence! If such a repository could be established and successfully implemented, it would no doubt become the most powerful source of artificial intelligence in the world.
Maybe. I would want to get the opinion of an expert on AI on that.
And regarding robots "letting" humans edit their 'pedia...unless we program them to restrict our contributions, they can't. And even then, WSC is correct-- what's to stop us from looking like a bot?
A reverse Turing test, maybe?
Carcharoth
On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, "Wikipository-- the information repository that any robot can contribute to"--
Would they edit war, I wonder?
Unless the interface is designed to prevent that, most likely.
Bob
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, "Wikipository-- the information repository that any robot can contribute to"--
Would they edit war, I wonder?
Unless the interface is designed to prevent that, most likely.
And would they come up with something like 3RR?
[This may be getting a little silly...]
Carcharoth
On 2/9/2011 6:21 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Carcharoth wrote:
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, "Wikipository-- the information repository that any robot can contribute to"--
Would they edit war, I wonder?
Unless the interface is designed to prevent that, most likely.
And would they come up with something like 3RR?
[This may be getting a little silly...]
They could probably set up listeners to monitor for activity like that and enforce a 1RR-- where if two bots successively reverted one another, a counseling agent would slip in and request they stop. The counseling agent would bring in another agent designed to evaluate which edit was probably correct using complex AI, and the two bots which had been involved would be denied access if they attempted to perform the same action again.
Bob
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikipedian@gmail.com wrote:
They could probably set up listeners to monitor for activity like that and enforce a 1RR-- where if two bots successively reverted one another, a counseling agent would slip in and request they stop. The counseling agent would bring in another agent designed to evaluate which edit was probably correct using complex AI, and the two bots which had been involved would be denied access if they attempted to perform the same action again.
It all sounds very logical, unemotional, and efficient. Not Wikipedia, then!
Carcharoth
Most humans see the world their own way and there's very little standardization going on.
Fred
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647
"Robots could soon have an equivalent of the internet and Wikipedia."
Do you think they will let humans edit their Wikipedia?
Carcharoth
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