Well, it's simple. Be polite and non-confrontational and don't make the new contributor feel they have no business trying. Wikipedians are only about 20% female and the world is about 50%...so there must be some noise on this channel. Perhaps males have a higher tolerance for confrontation. Seems like that is the case in life in general. Wikipedia is a choice for use of personal time and if it is a place that can be (in editors' responses to contributors) unnecessarily harsh. Fo people invested in a topic the way Mr. Roth was treated is very telling.
I have taught male and female graduate students for many years. Both make mistakes. It takes a lot of deliberation to be positively critical. I generally re-write negative evaluations multiple times before I render them to a student.Words can cause much pain.
Telling Mr. Roth he wasn't a credible source is the kind of heedless action I mean. He had access to make his case in the *New Yorker *. Most of the world does not.
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 5:29 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 September 2012 22:20, Kathleen McCook klmccook@gmail.com wrote:
I sense the raised (ironic) eyebrow in this question and since you know the answer, I need not tell you,
I think it was a genuine question, and one I had too.
- d.
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On 9/9/12, Kathleen McCook klmccook@gmail.com wrote:
Well, it's simple. Be polite and non-confrontational and don't make the new contributor feel they have no business trying.
Good advice. Though quite why a new thread is being started each time, I'm not sure. I'm trying to be as polite and non-confrontational as possible, but is there a way to (politely) point out that mailing list etiquette would suggest a different approach? i.e. constructive criticism of the form "can we keep most of this in one or two threads?"
Carcharoth
I don't know why either. I will send a research paper citation and stop. --Kathleen
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.comwrote:
On 9/9/12, Kathleen McCook klmccook@gmail.com wrote:
Well, it's simple. Be polite and non-confrontational and don't make the
new
contributor feel they have no business trying.
Good advice. Though quite why a new thread is being started each time, I'm not sure. I'm trying to be as polite and non-confrontational as possible, but is there a way to (politely) point out that mailing list etiquette would suggest a different approach? i.e. constructive criticism of the form "can we keep most of this in one or two threads?"
Carcharoth
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You just need to stop changing the subject line of your e-mail.
On 9/9/12, Kathleen McCook klmccook@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know why either.
I think it is because the subject line is being changed each time. In some e-mail clients that shows up as a new thread each time (other e-mail clients recognise some other thread identifier, I'm not quite sure of the mechanics myself).
I will send a research paper citation and stop.
The research paper citation was interesting. Please don't stop. It would be good to see more stuff like that discussed (by you and others) on this mailing list. This mailing list (the wikien-l list) tends to be a lot quieter than the wikimedia-l mailing list, which can make for different sorts of discussions.
Carcharoth