Or, is everyone on such a red-alert for spam (even of companies that are now bankrupt and out of operation), that this will be the standard procedure?

Gregory Maxwell wrote: For newbies who don't understand our somewhat complex, inconsistent, and occasionally bizarre notability guidelines? Yes.

Tagging an article with {{delete}} isn't asking- it's telling a user to fuck off. Going to their talk page, asking, and waiting a day is asking them to do things. Slapping an article with {{delete}} is being aggressive, hostile, and bitey.

I'm finding the new spam speedy, is it G11 or G12, really contentious. I can't work what is meant by blatant advertising. Some people seem to be taking the view that it's simply having an article on a company.

By entering into a respectful dialogue.

I am interested to see what the expert community thinks about this scenario: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bill_Knapp%27s_Restaurant&dif… Relatively new user "Ipthief" (about 20 seemingly clueful edits between July 17 and October 25) decided that there ought to be an article in Wikipedia about the Bill Knapp's restaurant chain (now closed, but a verifiable "institution" in Michigan for decades -- and 900+ Google hits). So, Ipthief set out at 2:36 PM, writing the first forms of a stubby article. Two minutes later, user "Diez2" lands on the page, throws up a {{db-bio}} on the page. In the next moment, Diez2 informs Ipthief's Talk page of the advice, "If you can indicate why Bill Knapp's Restaurant is really notable, you can contest the tagging." Is it too much to expect someone to either (a) wait a little longer than 2 minutes before calling for a speedy delete, or (b) look up something on Google to get some gauge of notability . . . before making such an adversarial, deletionist move? Or, is everyone on such a red-alert for spam (even of companies that are now bankrupt and out of operation), that this will be the standard procedure? -- Gregory Kohs _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

On 10/31/06, Chris Picone <ccool2ax(a)gmail.com> wrote: A7 Unremarkable people, groups, companies and web content. An article about a real person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject. If the assertion is controversial or there has been a previous AfD, the article should be nominated for AfD instead. Note: Avoid the word "vanity" in deletion summaries since it may be insulting. -- geni _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l