I gather then you would remove the articles on Shakespeare? What he
wrote was fictions. Or if you consider plays as in some sense "real",
then would you eliminate the articles on Tolstoy and Jane Austen?
Or would you write about their lives only without discussing their
works at all. "Milton had an interesting life, and he wrote some books
too, but we're going to only talk about the political ones, not the
poetry" ??? "Tolkien had an eminent career as a philologist, for his
novels, see elsewhere" ??
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:20 PM, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/7/12 David Goodman <dgoodmanny(a)gmail.com>om>:
"Stuff that people have made up"
includes all of literature,
philosophy, religion, music, the fine arts, architecture, artifacts,
politics, and human organisations in general. Everything except the
physical and biological world. In other words, most of the
encyclopedia.
No. Architecture isn't simply made up, it's *made*. As are artifacts,
and politics and human organisations. Philosophy, on balance isn't
simply made up, as it's supposed to reflect the real world.
I mean, everything is made up/invented/discovered, but if what it
represents is supposed to be real then it stays, otherwise it gets
moved to the other encyclopedia, whatever a good name would be.
I gather the intended meaning was popular
culture.
No. The arts, fiction and music. *Real* culture probably doesn't count
as it's real, but popular culture is more or less just fiction and
music.
How do you intend to distinguish popular culture
as distinct from high
culture, or recognized academic culture?
Is it in, or intending to represent the real world, rather than, say,
fiction? Religion is supposed to be true. Academic culture is the way
academia actually works.
Or do you mean it to exclude fiction altogether?
On what justification
can you exclude fiction, but not paintings or music?
No, no. They would move if they're on a fictitious subject, or unless
they are supposed to be essentially true (note that they don't have to
be correct, they just have to be claimed to be true, or thought at
some time to be true). Some paintings could be kept, but I expect they
would almost all move. In cases where they are borderline, they could
be in both places, it's not a problem.
And it's not an exclusion at all, it's a division. It's not
historically uncommon to divide encyclopedias up into sections.
--
-Ian Woollard
We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. If we lived in a perfectly
imperfect world things would be a lot better.
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