On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:21 PM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers(a)googlemail.com&gt; wrote: If there is talk page consensus, does the page really still need to be fully protected? -- Alex (User:Majorly)

2009/7/23 Al Tally &lt;majorly.wiki(a)googlemail.com&gt;om>: There's quite often a bitter disagreement over one thing, which sadly results in protection to stop the editwarring, despite general agreement on more broad issues. "[twelfth-century figure] is French!" "No, he's German!" "Dutch, you cultural imperialists!" "...but other than that lede sentence, we need to do the following dozen things to the section on his work." -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk

2009/7/23 David Gerard &lt;dgerard(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: Another recent non-BLP example is [[Ununbium]], which was locked from moves after the likely name Copernicium was announced - it's not the name unless there are no substantial objections by Jan 2010, but the media headlines implied it was the name of the element right now. (The name situation is now explained in the intro itself, because it's current and important enough editorially.) - d.

2009/7/23 Ken Arromdee &lt;arromdee(a)rahul.net&gt;et>: In this case it was while it was still uncertain that he was really dead. Keeping questionable death reports out of a BLP is important, particularly as enough people went to Wikipedia first to knock the servers over ... - d.

David Gerard wrote: We need to be ready for the onslaught when Elvis dies. :-) Ec

[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wrong_Version Inevitable Postulate of Version Control] "WereSpielChequers" &lt;werespielchequers(a)googlemail.com&gt; wrote in message news:8b07072f0907230421w257405c9w9d411ec737e7ca16@mail.gmail.com...

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Luna&lt;lunasantin(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: FlaggedRevs would work better for that, likewise high-use images, of which flags (in the heraldic sense, i.e. those which swing from a pole) would be a good example. Rumor has it this extension is coming soon a wiki near you, like this weekend maybe[1], but I'll believe it when I see it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_47#Flagged_Revis… What we'd really need is some kind of god-parameter to indicate whether we want to transclude the stable or bleeding-edge version of a template or image. Of course I don't expect much empathy from those who haven't had the misfortune to design a template and then permanently be locked out of it. —C.W. [1] Preserved for posterity in case this falls down the memory hole: "I fully support the implementation which garnered the consensus of the community and have asked that it be turned on as soon as possible. I feel that this implementation is not strong enough, but it is a good start. Once the tool is technically enabled, I think that policy will move over time to the appropriate balance, just as protection and semi-protection did. I believe it likely that I will be for a long time in favor of cautious expansion of the use of the tool for more articles - but I respect the concerns people have about it (the length of the backlog in German Wikipedia has been too often too long, in my opinion). I think we are simply waiting now on Brion. He has suggested "before Wikimania". I hope that's right.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 10:35, 2 June 2009 (UTC)" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_47#Flagged_Revisions_update_-_requesting_an_update_from_Jimmy>