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Marc Riddell

27 Nov 2011 27 Nov '11

2 a.m.

Without knowledge, myths are born. With myths, fear is born. With fear, intolerance is born. With intolerance, ignorance is born. With ignorance, nothing is born. MR

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K. Peachey

27 Nov 27 Nov

2:41 a.m.

Even with Wikipedia around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

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Thomas Dalton

3:27 a.m.

On 27 November 2011 01:41, K. Peachey <p858snake(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Even with Wikipedia around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

I saw a documentary recently on the BBC that all about how to build the wings of the Boeing A380, and it talked about the wings generating lift because the air going over the top has further to travel... I sometimes wonder if we're just wasting our time... (For the benefit of any readers still labouring under that misconception: please take a few minutes to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lift_(force) )

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Ray Saintonge

11:48 a.m.

On 11/26/11 5:41 PM, K. Peachey wrote:

Even with Wikipedia around: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

And I thought that it was caused by disorder at rock concerts or when a neighbour complains that one's music is too loud. Ec

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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen

2:12 p.m.

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:

Without knowledge, myths are born. With myths, fear is born. With fear, intolerance is born. With intolerance, ignorance is born. With ignorance, nothing is born. MR

There is no way to create myths without knowledge. There is no way to create fear without intolerance. There is no way to create intolerance without ignorance. Ignorance is the cradle of creation. Knowledge is the grave of creation. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]]

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Thomas Dalton

2:20 p.m.

On 27 November 2011 13:12, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <cimonavaro(a)gmail.com> wrote:

There is no way to create myths without knowledge. There is no way to create fear without intolerance. There is no way to create intolerance without ignorance. Ignorance is the cradle of creation. Knowledge is the grave of creation.

It is not ignorance itself that is the cradle of creation, but rather knowledge of our own ignorance.

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Ken Arromdee

3:08 p.m.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Marc Riddell wrote:

Without knowledge, myths are born. With myths, fear is born. With fear, intolerance is born. With intolerance, ignorance is born. With ignorance, nothing is born.

I recall a Scientific American article (I believe it was in Mathematical Games or its successors) which showed that using a chain of synonyms about as long as what you are using here it is possible to create a chain from almost any word to its opposite. One specific example they used was "reliable" being shown through a chain of synonyms to be the same as "unreliable". I can't Google paper, but this statement reminded me of that.

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Ken Arromdee

3:32 p.m.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011, Ken Arromdee wrote:

Without knowledge, myths are born. With myths, fear is born. With fear, intolerance is born. With intolerance, ignorance is born. With ignorance, nothing is born.

I recall a Scientific American article (I believe it was in Mathematical Games or its successors) which showed that using a chain of synonyms about as long as what you are using here it is possible to create a chain from almost any word to its opposite.

Here's a few I came up with myself: With ignorance, superstition is born. With superstition, religion is born. With religiou, culture is born. With culture, civilization is born. With civilization, strength is born. With freedom, revolution is born. With revolution, consolidation of power is born. With consolidation of power, dictatorship is born. With dictatorship, slavery is born.

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MuZemike

9:05 p.m.

Taken straight from the novel Lord of the Flies, I am sure :) -MuZemike On 11/27/2011 8:32 AM, Ken Arromdee wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011, Ken Arromdee wrote:

Without knowledge, myths are born. With myths, fear is born. With fear, intolerance is born. With intolerance, ignorance is born. With ignorance, nothing is born.

I recall a Scientific American article (I believe it was in Mathematical Games or its successors) which showed that using a chain of synonyms about as long as what you are using here it is possible to create a chain from almost any word to its opposite.

Here's a few I came up with myself: With ignorance, superstition is born. With superstition, religion is born. With religiou, culture is born. With culture, civilization is born. With civilization, strength is born. With freedom, revolution is born. With revolution, consolidation of power is born. With consolidation of power, dictatorship is born. With dictatorship, slavery is born. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
K. Peachey
Ken Arromdee
Marc Riddell
MuZemike
Ray Saintonge
Thomas Dalton