Update for all interested parties: RyanGerbil10 and Ryan Postlethwaite have withdrawn, leaving Mr.Z-man, Maxim, Riana, Majorly, and Wizardman. There is also still an ongoing discussion at [[WT:RFA]] as mentioned previously. - GC On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:

That said, one has withdrawn citing, from what I can see, that it was for fun as much as anything else. Perhaps there was a genuine need for 'crats? Last time we had a large group of noms going, circumstances were similar, if I recall correctly. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 28/02/2008, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote: One cannot help finding it curious that six administrators suddenly were For what it's worth, I've been planning to run for quite some time. Just got the shove I needed today, is all. :) -- Riana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Riana http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Riana

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:22 AM, michael west <michawest(a)gmail.com> wrote: Perhaps the idea to have several bureaucrats run at once was not discussed thoroughly enough; almost all that are running have received blanket "we don't need more" opposes. Considering how high the bar of promotion is for RfBs, these types of opposes can sink one by themselves. Update: Maxim and Majorly have withdrawn as well, leaving Wizardman, Riana, and Mr.Z-man.

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: [[User:Neil]] is also running, bringing the total to five. I confess, I'm a little disappointed at how quickly some of the candidates have withdrawn. Does anyone else feel similarly?

On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote: I agree with you partially. I don't really see a reason why a candidate would not let their RfA or RfB run its full course, even if it seems clear that it would not pass. First, I've seen many debates where the tide completely shifts towards the end; and second, it's a chance for good, constructive criticism, which is something that no one should pass up on. If a candidate withdraws early, not only does it make the nom seem spurious, but it gives an impression of caring more about preserving a positive percentage in case they decide to run again in the future.

On 28/02/2008, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: Sorry, I might have missed it... but what constructive criticism was there? I saw mostly unhelpful comments like "Never" "totally unsuitable" "don't trust him as an admin" blah blah etc etc. There was barely anything helpful. I also think running 3 times shows I am pretty serious, don't you think? I had promised to myself to never run again after last July, and broke that promise by running again, with the hope the community would be able to be more forgiving and assume more good faith, and not hold grudges. Some people oppose because of petty reasons, and basically attacked me in doing so - I'm hurt the community thinks I'm some sort of unstable individual who would make a rubbish bureaucrat. I'm a bcrat on Meta, probably the most active. Heck, even Lar supported me, and we are probably two of the most different users there are, and we've had lots of fights. But since we work on Meta as bcrats, he probably knows me better than most. Anyway, there's some much better candidates up, and I'm glad *I* was the push that got them running. -- Alex (Majorly) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Majorly

On 28/02/2008, Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com> wrote: I asked a question. Please answer it. There was a smidgen of constructive criticism, but it was mostly fluffy shrubbery votes. The one about the sockpuppetry was particularly dreadful. -- Alex (Majorly) http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Majorly

You mentioned Lar - some criticism of you from him can be found in your RfB. Not all criticism that was expressed was constructive in allowing you to change... But the prevalence of criticism, in contrast to some other RfBs, at least tells you something. In any event, I agree with you that a withdrawal was in order. Nathan On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Majorly <axel9891(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

Quick update, Acalamari and Mr.Z-man have withdrawn. There are currently four candidates left: Riana, Wizardman, Neil, and The Rambling Man.

Thomas Dalton wrote: I was also disappointed with that reason, but as equally with many reasons I see on those RFB proposals. ./scream

They didn't disappoint me so much, simply because I was expecting them... If you expect the worst, you'll never be disappointed!

Thomas Dalton wrote: It serves to inform me. I had no idea about the RFB's untill I read about them. Now I think I'll go check Avr's out. I don't have RFA watchlisted for example. Commentary is ok I think, especially if it serves the work of this list. ./scream